(February 16, 2017 at 10:44 am)Drich Wrote: yes Christ asks for a mere mustard seed's worth of faith, which such an expenditure He said we would be able to move mountains of doubt.Do you see what you did there? or rather what you are about to do? You are going to change the parameter of the analogy and them deem it bad.
The same way anyone who steps on a plane for the first time and does not completely understand the fundamentals of flight. You see other people do it and get where they are going, so you hop on and see if the plane will take you where you are supposed to go.
[quote='Harry Nevis' pid='1510940' dateline='1487272739']
No, another bad analogy.
Quote: I KNOW the plane exists.Again sport, it's not about the existence of airplanes Nor is it about you. it about the fundamentals of heavier than air flight.
Quote: I KNOW the statistics of plane crashes.My analogy references to 'anyone who meets the following qualifications: does not understand the fundamentals of flight, but sees and knows of people who have sucessfully flown, and from there faith proceeds understanding.
Do you get it yet smart guy? Through out modern soceity we have endless examples of people taking advantage of technology (most of which unseen) and even go so far as to place their life of said technology without a hint of understanding as to how it works or the principles the technology operates on. They simply do it because they know it will benfit them and they can hear the testimony of those who have also done the same and got what they wanted.
It's not a far flung process unless then of course you put God in place of some other unknown technology. Why? because it is ok to have faith in anything branded with the 'science' lable and it is not ok to expend the same minute level of faith to test God's word.
Yeah gotcha
Absolutely this message board is proof of that!!
Quote:[color=#ff3333]Really?! you can just decide to believe what you want?Yes moron.. Or do you not understand there are even competing scientific beliefs to darwins theory of evolution? So why believe in Darwinism? either you review the other and choose that one or you choose to simply lemming after the rest of the pack.
I chose not to follow the teaching of Buddhism from which I was born into, I chose not to follow the tenements of douchbaggery of atheism after high school, and I chose to follow Christianity, and I again chose not to follow Islam based on irreconcilable differences after much study.
Don't tell me you just float through life and simply believe whatever is in front of you.
Quote:You just said I needed blind faith to get evidence.Just like stepping on an airplane with no knoweledge of how it works, you must have faith enough to simply Ask Seek and Knock as Christ outlined in luke 11. That's it. You have to have enough faith to simply ask and keep look for what it is you need to establish and maintain your faith.
Quote:I was not one of these people.Don't be obtuse. we all are. Pride simply will not allow you to place the same faith you place in everything else you do not understand in your life, in God. That's all it is sport. You already expend more faith in a modern car's gas pedal and steering wheel, or the fact that you eat food you did not grow or kill yourself is 10x more than what it is needed in the mustard seed's worth of faith God expects for all of us.
Quote:It's quite amazing what we can convince ourselves of.Indeed some, without any knowledge of God what so ever can definitively say God does not exist. Why? because God will not play their game their way.
What is even more amazing is when the flood gates open and you are placed in a position to receive what God has promised. To be place in a position where everything is out of your control and just one miraculous thing happens after another and another.
