RE: Is it true that there is no absolute morality?
February 22, 2017 at 10:03 pm
(This post was last modified: February 22, 2017 at 10:29 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 22, 2017 at 9:55 pm)SteveII Wrote: Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I appreciate the dialog.Buddhists manage, don't they, lol. I get that you think it "carries weight"...but that's probably because the god idea carries weight...with you...as a believer, eh?
"No god" carries with it far more weight that you are allowing. Can you avoid Naturalism being true in a "no god" worldview? If not, that comes with a bunch of metaphysical baggage having to do with epistemology, etiologic considerations, limited ontology, etc.
Quote:The distinction is that a "no god" epistemology gives you subjective value/meaning/purpose which leave it open to a matter of opinion and a theistic epistemology provides objective grounding with God providing value/meaning/purpose which is not open to opinion or changing over time.You -just- gave us a secular value/meaning...was it objective when you said it but subjective when I say it? How does that happen? Further, the way you're using the terms objective and subjective are ridiculous. The value or meaning god assess in our case is no more or less subjective than the value we may place upon one another or ourselves...and from the other end granting it the status of "objective" in gods case would grant us the same.
Quote:If an atheist thinks abortion or euthanasia is abhorrent, then they must admit it is their opinion and other have a right to their opinion. Hopefully the "others" opinions don't matter more than yours when it comes to your baby or your grandmother. A theist has no such obligation to recognize someone else's opinion.Hahaha, wow, talk about a lot that demands privilege? So, other people have to recognize others opinions...yours as well, presumably, but you don't have to recognize theirs? Again...how does that work?
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