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What is the logic in "life after death"?
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RE: What is the logic in "life after death"?
3. You said: "Our pattern seeking and exaggerated agency detection superimposes gods over the natural world." How has that been studied?

The pigeon experiment would be a good start.



4. Nope. That is not my argument. My argument would be that there has to be a first cause of the universe OR what is the explanation that the universe is mind-boggling fine-tuned for life, etc. Not circular.

The universe is fine tuned for life? bwahahahaha,
Try travelling outside our magnetosphere
Try travelling outside our atmosphere
Heck, try surviving on this blue dot without man-made protections like clothes and tools



5. Nope again. The NT, within the same time period, catalogs the fact that there existed churches prior to Paul writing his letters that believed the core contents of the NT. These facts independently attest that the later gospels contain beliefs already in existence prior to the writing of the gospels. Further, document/linquistic studies confirm that the gospels relied on even earlier writings/notes/testimony. All surviving evidence for anything that all will be in writing. To use your logic that writing was not evidence, you would have to dismiss all ancient history.

The book of harry potter mentions places like england and london that exist prior to harry's birth, and the existence of these people have been confirmed by people even today, thus harry potter is reality

(March 7, 2017 at 4:27 am)Godschild Wrote:
(March 5, 2017 at 3:48 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: OK I know that you'll say that logic and religion don't go together but there must be something that religious people use to rationalize this very central reason why most of them bother with religion.

Logic and Christianity go hand in hand. It's those who have been blinded by their hero's who believe there is no logic in Christianity. Just look at the atheist here site all the time, it's the same ones over and over. Christianity only becomes a bother when Christians do not want to follow God's will completely.

Mental gymnastics is not logic.
And people keep repeating themselves because religious people keep rehashing the same arguments over and over again.


(March 7, 2017 at 4:27 am)Godschild Wrote:
FM Wrote:So, what would be the point of creating this world only to test people here to see if they'll go to heaven or hell? Looking at popular belief (and not strictly the scriptures) of who goes where : the killers, thieves, gluttonous and rapists get denied of heaven and are sentenced to hell - but why?

This world was and never has been a testing ground for salvation. You have missed the reason God made this world exist, it's called love and because it came about from God his Providence reigns over all of it, you nor any one else has a say in this. When we choose Jesus as our savior we are then shown why God's Providence reigns, it's part of growing in a relationship with Him.
Popular belief is where people get themselves into trouble, people want to be lazy instead of studying and searching the Bible, popular belief saves no one, scripture is plain on how salvation is obtained. All those things you mentioned are forgivable sins in this life as long as we have Jesus as Savior.

Punishing a baby for pooping does show how much love there is. By your own scriptures, adam and eve had no sense of good/evil or right and wrong, yet they are expected to do what someone else considers right, which is asinine.

(March 7, 2017 at 4:27 am)Godschild Wrote:
FM Wrote:Because when you get to heaven you are immortal and if you can't die - nobody can kill you; if everybody has everything - why bother stealing?; if you don't have to eat because you're a ghost and already dead - so what if you were gluttonous?; and if everybody is lacking genitals then nobody can rape anybody.

You start out the above with those in heaven as immortals then you go on to say those in heaven are dead ghosts, seems to me you"re so confused about every aspect of Christianity it's no wonder you can't figure anything out. Who says we will have things that could be stolen, scripture teaches us to lay up our treasures in heaven where they can never be stolen. Who says we want eat, we're going to have physical bodies as Jesus does and He ate with the disciples. We are told we want have the same relationship with our wives as we did here on earth, heaven will be a different and better way of life.

nice baseless assertions

(March 7, 2017 at 4:27 am)Godschild Wrote:
FM Wrote:What am I missing here? Does anyone have an answer to this?

You are missing the entire point of Jesus and the forgiveness that is necessary to be redeemed to enter heaven. You have made this conclusion clear by what you have posted above. If you are not reconciled to God through your own choice you want see heaven, that's as plain as I can put it and the NT scriptures teach this as plain as day. Sorry if this isn't what you want to hear but, it's the simple an absolute truth of it.

GC

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RE: What is the logic in "life after death"? - by Aoi Magi - March 7, 2017 at 4:45 am
RE: What is the logic in "life after death"? - by SteveII - March 7, 2017 at 11:47 am
What is the logic in "life after death"? - by KUSA - March 6, 2017 at 4:06 pm
RE: What is the logic in "life after death"? - by Drich - March 6, 2017 at 4:40 pm
What is the logic in "life after death"? - by KUSA - March 6, 2017 at 5:07 pm
RE: What is the logic in "life after death"? - by comet - March 11, 2017 at 6:43 pm

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