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Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
(March 30, 2017 at 8:30 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(March 30, 2017 at 8:18 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Disagreement with the inference does not make it a gaps argument.  If you want to contend the reasons of the argument, fine..... however, you cannot just label it "god of the gaps", and accurately reflect the position.

Nope sorry, it is still a gap argument.

See if you can spot the pattern.

"Disagreement with the inference does not make it a gaps argument=Therefore God exists"
"Disagreement with the inference does not make it a gaps argument=Therefore Allah exists"
"Disagreement with the inference does not make it a gaps argument=Therefore Yahweh exists"
"Disagreement with the inference does not make it a gaps argument=Therefore Hindu God Brahma exists"
"Disagreement with the inference does not make it a gaps argument=Therefore hurricanes prove Poseidon's existence"
"Disagreement with the inference does not make it a gaps argument=Therefore lightening existing makes Thor real".

Your problem is you ignore people with other god of the gaps guesses believe both in the past and present of all religions as passionately as you do about yours. You are still stuck with the same problem they do, "which one".

It is still a naked assertion and a presumption just like all the rest. You like what you believe and that is where you lose all objectivity. You are not going where the evidence leads, you are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole after the fact to make science suit your pet belief. Neutral science does not favor one pet deity claim over others. It is why a plane will fly both in Iran and in America. It is why a flu vaccine will work in Japan and China and Mexico. 

You like every other religion are all stuck in the same boat, get in line, take a number.


I think the problem is, that you are operating on a false assumption about what it is I believe about the argument.  If you are saying, that the argument from fine tuning doesn't point to a specific God or gods.  I agree!  It doesn't point to anything other than a cause, that is capable of making choices, and possibly a sufficiency to actualize those choices.  

I find your "spot the pattern" line, that you seem to be so fond of lately to be quite funny, because it only shows that you don't understand what is being said or why. Perhaps you should either ask questions, or address the reasoning, rather than making yourself look ignorant.
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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism? - by RoadRunner79 - March 30, 2017 at 9:51 am

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