RE: Trans people & sports
April 3, 2017 at 2:14 pm
(This post was last modified: April 3, 2017 at 2:17 pm by I_am_not_mafia.)
(April 3, 2017 at 2:02 pm)wallym Wrote:(April 3, 2017 at 1:50 pm)Mathilda Wrote: You have also deliberately ignored the fact that post-op on hormones transwomen will lose any physical advantage of having had a male body both in muscle mass and yes also bone structure if given enough time. A year is not enough. Your deliberately selective and emotive examples suggest an alternative agenda.
I asked this earlier. Hypothetically, If you take an average NBA Center, how long would it take for the 7'0 player to turn into an average WNBA Center? (who are typically 6'6 or so)?
I don't know but your body is being constantly regenerated and hormones continually reshape a body over many years. A trans woman who had been on hormone blockers since puberty for example woiuld have zero advantage over a ciswoman. Pre-op trans women have a higher dose of oestrogen to counteract their testosterone. Post op they are given generic hrt that ciswomen get. Best to be more stringent about length of time and dose of hormones rather than ban trans people outright.
(April 3, 2017 at 2:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(April 3, 2017 at 2:07 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Sport is just a form of entertainment for the masses and is also extremely selective. You can't play professional basketball if you are not tall enough no matter how good you are. And not all sports have a physical advantage for men. So I am personally fine with banning trans people at professional levels if other unfair physical advantages were banned as well, for example people born with excess hemoglobin in the blood, intersex people etc. But then you'd just end up with mediocre athletes, because the best athletes are all basically exceptional in some regard. When you devote a lifetime to shaving off a fraction of a second and have a team versed in sport science then it's not all down to talent.
So you need to ask yourself which freaks you want to see performing for your entertainment.
To clarify, do you think women and men shouldn't have separate competitions at all?
I'm just wondering, because if you see being male vs being female as a difference that is just as small as being a person with more hemoglobin than the other, then I don't see why you would think male and female should be separated at all.
Depends on the sport. Paragliding for example does not differentiate.