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God and theists.
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RE: God and theists.
(May 11, 2017 at 9:21 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: God cannot be described.

The mistake of the Church and theism in general, is that it tried to describe God. 
The description of God involves installing him in a human-like form.

It begins with the body that is represented by simple to complicated structures like statues and tombstones, to psychological traits involving actions and ways of acting.


More or less, it's the mere idea of simplification that makes the idea more convenient for human minds to follow: simplicity make it easier for missionary movements to spread their theistic ideas, and make the current believers stay in belief since the belief is simple and doesn't require complicated thinking.

Christianity gave an example with the simplification of God, turning him into a father; giving birth to a human with super powers, and closing the belief with a statement of presenting the idea of the son being the father; the father being son; making God a human.

Since similar ideas worked for centuries in Ancient Greece and Ancient Egypt, it was more of an evidence that it would work in Rome.

Islam followed the same footsteps but with minor changes to the main idea.

Shiite Islam gave an example by the appointing of 12 Imams, that represent God's sacred order. Without them, God will never be known. Only them can define what God is; silencing any voices that ask for another definition; since seeking knowledge out of the Imams domain is asking knowledge from an untrustworthy source; thus easing missionary campaigns and easing up the believing process on current believers.

In all other religions, from Judaism to Sunni Islam, passing by Hinduism and Buddaism, similar terminologies can be detected; but the source is always the simplification of God into a human formula that can rest up heads and make thinking and speculations -and raising questions- as low as possible.  

God cannot be described fully. Science proved it by showing the massive scale of our universe alone; and proving that their might be other multiverses which are just as massive. God is something we know nothing about but a few descriptions.

Neither a fake son, nor a gang of 12 Imams, not a militia of Sunni shamans, nor a group of Jewish Rabbis, would conclude him in a beard or two.

You, "God cannot be discribed"........

BINGO, and that is the core of every God/god/s/deity/ super natural divine entity claim in human history.

People do make those attempts, and have formed all sorts of religions based on those claims. But "God" cannot be described in any pragmatic universal sense that can be neutrally tested and falsified and independently peer reviewed.

The rest of your post is simply another apology that all religions make, you just change the words to point to your pet claim.
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God and theists. - by WinterHold - May 11, 2017 at 9:21 am
RE: God and theists. - by Mister Agenda - May 11, 2017 at 9:25 am
RE: God and theists. - by WinterHold - May 11, 2017 at 5:06 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Harry Nevis - May 12, 2017 at 7:56 am
God and theists. - by Valyza1 - May 11, 2017 at 9:42 am
RE: God and theists. - by Brian37 - May 11, 2017 at 10:08 am
RE: God and theists. - by brewer - May 11, 2017 at 11:21 am
RE: God and theists. - by vorlon13 - May 11, 2017 at 11:23 am
RE: God and theists. - by Brian37 - May 11, 2017 at 12:35 pm
God and theists. - by Valyza1 - May 11, 2017 at 11:56 am
RE: God and theists. - by brewer - May 11, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Harry Nevis - May 11, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: God and theists. - by mediocrates - May 11, 2017 at 12:16 pm
God and theists. - by Valyza1 - May 11, 2017 at 1:05 pm
RE: God and theists. - by brewer - May 11, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Whateverist - May 11, 2017 at 1:21 pm
God and theists. - by Valyza1 - May 11, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: God and theists. - by brewer - May 11, 2017 at 4:00 pm
God and theists. - by Valyza1 - May 11, 2017 at 4:12 pm
RE: God and theists. - by vorlon13 - May 11, 2017 at 4:41 pm
RE: God and theists. - by FatAndFaithless - May 12, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: God and theists. - by Mister Agenda - May 12, 2017 at 10:40 am
RE: God and theists. - by SteveII - May 12, 2017 at 11:04 am
RE: God and theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 12, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: God and theists. - by Harry Nevis - May 12, 2017 at 2:14 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Minimalist - May 12, 2017 at 10:23 pm
RE: God and theists. - by brewer - May 13, 2017 at 12:12 am
RE: God and theists. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 13, 2017 at 5:48 am
RE: God and theists. - by Zenith - May 13, 2017 at 5:23 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2017 at 10:04 am
RE: God and theists. - by SteveII - May 15, 2017 at 10:45 am
RE: God and theists. - by Foxaèr - May 15, 2017 at 11:10 am
RE: God and theists. - by SteveII - May 15, 2017 at 11:19 am
RE: God and theists. - by Foxaèr - May 15, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: God and theists. - by downbeatplumb - May 19, 2017 at 11:49 am
RE: God and theists. - by vorlon13 - May 19, 2017 at 7:47 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Cyberman - May 16, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 16, 2017 at 1:04 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Harry Nevis - May 16, 2017 at 3:30 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Cyberman - May 16, 2017 at 2:59 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 16, 2017 at 4:20 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Cyberman - May 17, 2017 at 5:37 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Mister Agenda - May 17, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: God and theists. - by Harry Nevis - May 17, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: God and theists. - by SteveII - May 18, 2017 at 3:55 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Harry Nevis - May 19, 2017 at 7:55 am
RE: God and theists. - by Mister Agenda - May 19, 2017 at 10:33 am
RE: God and theists. - by Grandizer - May 19, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: God and theists. - by Zenith - May 19, 2017 at 11:26 am
RE: God and theists. - by SteveII - May 19, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Succubus - May 19, 2017 at 3:26 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Grandizer - May 19, 2017 at 7:44 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Harry Nevis - May 23, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: God and theists. - by SteveII - May 19, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Mister Agenda - May 21, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 18, 2017 at 9:56 am
RE: God and theists. - by Harry Nevis - May 18, 2017 at 10:03 am
RE: God and theists. - by Cyberman - May 18, 2017 at 10:51 am
RE: God and theists. - by Zenith - May 18, 2017 at 2:10 pm
RE: God and theists. - by The Grand Nudger - May 18, 2017 at 5:11 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Succubus - May 18, 2017 at 11:59 pm
RE: God and theists. - by WinterHold - May 19, 2017 at 8:43 am
RE: God and theists. - by Cyberman - May 19, 2017 at 8:51 am
RE: God and theists. - by Cyberman - May 19, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: God and theists. - by Harry Nevis - May 19, 2017 at 12:12 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Cyberman - May 19, 2017 at 8:18 am
RE: God and theists. - by Mister Agenda - May 19, 2017 at 3:03 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Grandizer - May 19, 2017 at 7:53 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 19, 2017 at 3:26 pm
RE: God and theists. - by downbeatplumb - May 20, 2017 at 4:17 am
RE: God and theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 21, 2017 at 8:34 pm
RE: God and theists. - by chimp3 - May 21, 2017 at 9:09 pm
God and theists. - by Valyza1 - May 21, 2017 at 2:20 pm
RE: God and theists. - by chimp3 - May 21, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Fake Messiah - May 22, 2017 at 3:22 am
RE: God and theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - May 22, 2017 at 4:39 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Zenith - May 22, 2017 at 5:07 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Simon Moon - May 22, 2017 at 5:08 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Succubus - May 22, 2017 at 7:12 pm
RE: God and theists. - by chimp3 - May 22, 2017 at 8:06 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Harry Nevis - May 23, 2017 at 12:10 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Crossless1 - May 23, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: God and theists. - by vorlon13 - May 22, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: God and theists. - by vorlon13 - May 22, 2017 at 8:07 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Foxaèr - May 22, 2017 at 8:08 pm
RE: God and theists. - by brewer - May 23, 2017 at 12:08 pm
RE: God and theists. - by vorlon13 - May 22, 2017 at 8:13 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Foxaèr - May 22, 2017 at 8:17 pm
RE: God and theists. - by Succubus - May 22, 2017 at 9:06 pm
RE: God and theists. - by vorlon13 - May 22, 2017 at 9:43 pm

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