(August 9, 2017 at 12:58 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(August 9, 2017 at 9:11 am)rjh4 is back Wrote:
These questions:
So, Thumpalumpacus, in your position what makes stealing or kicking someone in the teeth wrong? I mean I think it is wrong because the Bible tells us to treat others like we want to be treated. But without God, what is your naturalistic explanation for right and wrong? Is it just a result of chemical reactions going on in your brain?
If you don't want to go there...fine. Are you concerned that your answers may not logically lead to the conclusions you want?
While I agree that you cannot discuss/debate God into existence (He exists or he doesn't regardless of our discussion/debate), it will only be by discussion/debate that we can discuss the reasons why we take one position or the other and it is only by discussion/debate that the reasons can be critiqued.
I don't need a god fantasy, being, entity to give me, society or humanity morals. Those have developed as a consequence of humans living and existing in successful groups. People who never heard of the bible or the abrahamic god had/have morals. Your point is lacking any significance.
Not concerned, anything you have to say will have little to no relevance. It's just you spouting more unfounded fantasy beliefs.
I know why you take your position, you need the fantasy delusion to be comfortable and content with your existence. What I don't understand is your need to justify it here or your need for me to consider your belief as valid. Could it be that it's not working as well as you'd like it to, not providing all of the comfort that you seem to need?
Funny...I have not been spouting much of anything on my position other than to merely tell you what it is. I have been asking about yours. If you are unwilling to talk about yours, that is fine.
