RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 9, 2017 at 4:18 pm
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2017 at 4:32 pm by Brian37.)
(August 9, 2017 at 3:46 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(August 9, 2017 at 3:42 pm)rjh4 is back Wrote: Maybe you should bone up on what presuppositions are. Everyone has them, even if they don't recognize what they are. Presuppositions are taken for granted...the starting point to argue from.
Why should I take your fantasy for granted? It's a non starter for a discussion.
Let's try this, Superman is real, OK, go.
Mr Brewer, sometimes I cannot stand some of your positions, but on this, I 100% agree, he might as well be arguing Superman or any other fictional character.
Theists never want to consider that when you have evidence it doesn't take apology to convince someone, you can literally take your claims into a neutral lab and then also have them independently tested and confirmed.
(August 9, 2017 at 2:37 pm)rjh4 is back Wrote:(August 9, 2017 at 2:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Gee. I wonder where we got the idea that you are some sort of religious fanatic? Maybe its one of those prophecies, huh?
What does that have to do with anything I said? Being willing NOT to talk about God here makes me a religious fanatic? You and Brian seem to just enjoy saying things without any relevance to what others say. I don't get it.
You think you are our first rodeo? Because if you really think you have some earth shattering argument other Christians or even other theists of other labels haven't tried before, and that we have not run into those tactics before, you are a fool. I was born at night, just not last night.
Min is right though, if you really buy the doomsday end times prophecy you either unwittingly or willingly ignore that you buy a very dangerous narrative. FYI many Muslims can point to their claimed prophecies too and quote the Koran too.
https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/3...-of-quran/
I don't know about you, but quite frankly I am tired of all three religions of Abraham having far too many fans make claims about what daddy wants and are willing to kill over those claims. I don't think any of you understand to a great enough degree that there are more than just Christians and Muslims and Jews on this planet of 7 billion.
AND, what monotheism calls "prophecies" prior polytheism much older than the monotheism of Abraham, had their versions of "predictions" coming from the divine world too. In polytheism they would go through "oracles" or "seers" or "soothsayers".
All nonsense to me, both in polytheism and monotheism. What does scare me is that their are people still today who believe this crap and have political power.