(August 10, 2017 at 4:36 pm)rjh4 is back Wrote:(August 10, 2017 at 3:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Stop it, this is NOT ABOUT YOU..... That is the other thing your religion unfortunately feeds you, any criticism of it you falsely play victim.
No I do not know you that is correct. I have however over 16 years seen those same horrible chess moves made by other apologists.
Yes you can talk all day about science but in the end your goal is to plug in the God of the bible.
ID is NOT SCIENCE, your God is not needed to explain how or why biological life exists.
Exploding stars explain why matter exists and thus atoms, and atoms make up biological life and that explains why life exists, because atoms exist.
I am sorry it bothers you that I am not swallowing your delusion, but that is your baggage, not mine.
Why do you keep telling me what my goal is? You know my intentions without knowing me?
And...no need to apologize. It does not bother me that you don't believe in God. You have that right. I am also happy not to talk with you about God since you clearly don't want me to.
However, I still reserve the right to ask a question or make a comment that implies that science doesn't really have an answer for something. If you want to take that as my plug for God, you will have to deal with it. Alternatively, look at what I say and evaluate it on its face and don't make the leap. It is up to you.
Lastly, your quote:
"Exploding stars explain why matter exists and thus atoms, and atoms make up biological life and that explains why life exists, because atoms exist."
is fallacious (reification) as well as nonsense. Nothing is that simple. If you, personally, don't go deeper than that, I can see why you wouldn't question anything in science.
Your denial of my last comment proves you have no business at all debating science.
If you are going to suggest I take your word for it and deny that say over a QM scientist like Lawrence Krauss who says the material in you and I and all life are atoms caused by the death of an exploding star, sorry wont do it.
I don't have to know you personally. You must not have good reading comprehension.
I have been at this for 16 years. I have seen this playbook from others long before we met. You are not the first to try to debunk science only to later try to shoehorn a god into the gap later. We have seen that plenty of times. And again, if you think Christianity is the only religion to try to get science to point to their club, you would be wrong.
Now if you don't like what Lawrence Krauss says he has a twitter page, go over there and argue with him.