(August 10, 2017 at 5:40 pm)rjh4 is back Wrote:(August 10, 2017 at 5:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Atoms are the result of the death of prior suns. If you cannot accept that, I cannot help you.
Your right, I don't like it, but not for personal reasons. I think you are taking this personally, not me.
Yes, I do defend facts tooth and nail. No, not one bit sorry or afraid.
Now go spend some time debating science with Jews and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists for a few years like I have then come back to me and claim you are so different and unique.
Brian...I told you to take the atoms from the death of prior suns as a given. Whether I believe it or not, I conceded the point. So, go ahead and explain the life from non-life issue.
I can assure you Brian, I take none of this personally.
So far all I have seen from you is defending scenarios based on fact, not the facts themselves. Didn't you get the difference from my earlier post?
Look, Brian, my question regarding life from non-life is a relevant question even for an atheist (in other words my question would have just as much validity if I was an atheist). If your answer is you don't know, just admit it and we can move on. You can not know something and still be an atheist. Others that are here can, so you can too. But stop trying to make simplistic statements and assume you have covered it...because you haven't...and I think you know that.
I DID YOU IDIOT.
Carbon that makes up carbon based life as individual atoms also exists in non living objects, what separates non life from life are the arrangement of the atoms in that molecule.
Now again your stupid dodge question is, "How did it go from non life to life"
ALLAH
YAHWEH
Bhrama
Apollo
Yoda
Pick one, anyone of those would be a great gap answer on par with your gap answer.
The How isn't the question in the context of religion, not yours not any. The How will only be answered by science.
"Everything has to have a creator" is bullshit, because if that is the case the Thor creates lightening. Poseidon creates hurricanes.
OR
The better bet as to why humans want a creator, isn't that a magic sky wizard exists, but those things are merely projections of human qualities in super hero form.