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Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
(August 11, 2017 at 8:16 am)rjh4 is back Wrote:
(August 10, 2017 at 6:09 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Is it this?: https://answersingenesis.org/what-is-sci...s-science/

I looked at this some today. Did you read this yourself? If so, I wonder what you think of it. What do you agree with and what do you not agree with?

Let's take the article Mr. Agenda provided.

http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090513/f...9.471.html

Is that historical science?

I would say so.  What about you? Seems like even the answers in genesis folks would.

If you read the genesis article regarding historical science it states that creationists presuppose magic. From the article: "Just as evolutionists weren’t there to see evolution happen over several billion years, neither were creationists there to see the events of the six days of creation. The difference is that creationists have the Creator’s eyewitness account of the events of creation,...". See, magic.

I choose not to presuppose magic. That is the difference. Magic is not needed. In the past, magic was a nice way to explain things away and make people comfortable. Today, it is no longer necessary except as a mental crutch. If you need the crutch to feel comfortable that's fine, I'm OK with that. Just don't push that the crutch is necessary for anyone but yourself.

The nature article is not historical science. It's the reporting and discussion of a scientific experiment. Was the experiment successful, yes. Did the experiment give insight to the possibility of early complex molecules forming, yes. Do I think their lab experiment was analogous to early earth or it's conditions, more than likely not. but a step in the direction of learning.

The genesis folks (and I believe you're one) would say "you don't have the complete answer, therefore god magic is necessary, thank god that we can be comfortable and safe now." 

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Historical_...al_science
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth - by brewer - August 11, 2017 at 9:25 am

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