Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth

[rjh4 is back]

You may not "be an answers in genesis" person but by your actions here you certainly behave and think like them.

Ok. I guess I will own up to that one.

I didn't say you worked with or for them but thanks for putting words in my mouth.

And I did not say you did. I was merely clarifying for your benefit.

What definitions?

Operational (Observational) Science: a systematic approach to understanding that uses observable, testable, repeatable, and falsifiable experimentation to understand how nature commonly behaves.

Historical (Origins) Science: interpreting evidence from past events based on a presupposed philosophical point of view.

As stated before my only presupposition is that magic/fantasy (god) does not exist in reality.

Very naive. Surely you presuppose more than that. Like: I can believe/trust the things I see. But I won't press the point.

I'm arguing that science can't be done with a presupposition of magic.

Sure it can. What about theists who deal regularly with operational science? And please don't be so stupid as to say there aren't any.

With a fantasy presupposition then any result/interpretation (positive or negative) can be given a fantasy explanation, either positive or negative. That is not science, that's a belief in magic. 

Science definition?: I'll accept the google response. Historical science?: I'll accept the rationalwiki definition that includes the studies of paleontology, archaeology, forensics and geology in the absence of magic or god. There are other fields of study that could be included as long as they don't contain magic.

So you define science to exclude all but naturalistic explanations. Fine. Good to know.

The science being reported on was not historical science. Only your presupposition makes it historical science for you.

Did you read the article on the lab that produce RNA spontaneously under conditions that scientists think might have been around in the distant past? Mr. Agenda provided it. It was not from a Christian but an atheist (If I am mischaracterizing your position, Mr. Agenda, let me know.) The scientists were evolutionists. So I must ask, why don't you consider it historical science? Your position on this has me baffled.

Again, if you need magic to feel comfortable and safe, fine, believe the fantasy delusion but don't expect me to.

I don't and I don't expect you to.

Something tells me that you have doubts about the fantasy or you wouldn't be here in the first place.

That something is giving you wrong information.

The time of god being a necessary psychological tool is over. Get used to it.

Get used to it? I am and I agree with you. God is not a psychological tool at all, let alone a necessary one.

Still waiting for you or the god fantasy to provide evidence of it's existence. Why do you think you and/or it keep dodging this question?

You already said your presupposition is that God does not exist. Therefore, no evidence of any kind would change your mind. It would be impossible. You would have to change your presuppositions first.

Also waiting for you to prove that Superman does not exist.

You want me to prove a negative? So it would be appropriate to ask you to prove God doesn't exists?