Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth

[Brian37]

After thinking about this some more, I would say I really don't have any objection to proposals in abiogenesis along the lines of "life can spontaneously come from non-life with x materials and under y conditions".

That being said, you said some things in your last post that interest me.

If god played in the dirt with organic chemistry to create life, there would be evidence of that in the dirt, the chemistry, and life itself - and as such god would find itself firmly approachable by natural science through it;s demonstrable or falsifiable effects on the natural world.

And what exactly would that evidence be that God would leave? In other words, whatever evidence you do find, on what basis would you be able to classify the evidence as having been left by God or not left by God? How would you be able to tell the difference?

As an example.  If some believer proposed that there was a god that made bananas fall from trees - and we found that this was not the case, that- rather-  a biological process related of fruiting bodies caused this seperation - then The God Of Making Bananas Fall From Trees has been falsified.  In common parlance, it simply doesn't exist.  He can protest that his god is supernatural, "other"..or that science is somehow limited to studying the banana...but none of this will change the fact that the Banana God is not where he said it was, nor does it do what he said it did.  He'll have to change his proposition to Some Other God - that ones DOA.

Has it? How? How can you tell the difference between a purely natural/biological result and a result that happens in nature (we observe it) that is caused by God? By what standard do you make that distinction? If you cannot make that distinction, how can you say "The God Of Making Bananas Fall From Trees has been falsified"?

The only way to escape the horrible grasp of science ( ), in the end, is to propose a god that has absolutely no effect on the natural world - our world.

Or there is a God in control of all that happens in the world?

Is it your position that science is the only way to evaluate any claim?

OR humans merely desire the idea of a super cognition that looks like them and thinks like them.

Funny how claims of gods/deities always seem to reflect the societies of the majorities who claim them.

Hate to burst your bubble, but there is no super cognition watching over us. That is merely a mere reflection of your own desires. 

But again, if you are claiming one exists, you are STILL STUCK WITH "WHICH ONE", because you are not the only human on the planet of 7 billion with a god claim. 

In stead of being intellectually frightened that this is it, maybe consider that by accepting this is it, you can value the finite time we have, instead of clinging to fictional utopias?

Although Jefferson was a deist and not an atheist even he said, "Question with boldness even the existence of a God, for if there be one, surely he would pay more homage to reason than to that of blindfolded fear."

Maybe we have something to teach you.