(August 16, 2017 at 1:54 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The difference would be discernible in the specifics of their claim. For example, if they asserted that it would be improbable to the point of impossibility that anything other than god played in the dirt, at least that much -should- be in evidence...but it is not. Thus the necessary god who played in the dirt is falsified. It is not necessary. Come up with some other god, some other proposition. Perhaps some other god exists, but not -that- god. Rinse and repeat with the next god.
An unnecessary god who maybe played in the dirt in ways indistinguishable from pure chance. That's what your retraction leaves us. Thing is, both of us know that you wont be satisfied with such a god and that you cannot help but propos a god that -is- distinguioshable from random this or thats. Perhaps not here, but somewhere, and in that somwhere, we will simply do this assessment again and find your god proposal demonstrably false in it's own specifics. If you ever do manage to come up with an unfalsifiable god, it would be the most unfortunate event for that god...since an unfalsifiable god, amusingly, is also an unconfirmable god. A god indistinguishable....from no god. Some god that would be, eh?
Suppose that there were such a god..who..sometimes, maybe, makes stuff that can be made at random by nothing in particular, and who...when he does deign to make stuff..makes it in such a way that no evidence thereof is left behind? Do you imagine people would flock to his temple? Is this -your- god? "I made this spoon, maybe, sure anyone can make a spoon and it sure looks like I didn;t make this one.....but I made this one, now bow or burn!"
Probably not, right>?
Interesting...but I still think you are missing my point....or maybe I am still missing something.
Let me ask this (I am trying really hard to understand your point of view). We live in a universe that we observe. You have come to the conclusion (at least I think), not God. Did you come to that as a presupposition or based on evidence or lack thereof?
Khemikal Wrote:Good, good. So, uh, do you have like a paypal or something, because I'd buy them at steep discount for my own kids. I want to buy a 3d printer to make legos, this christmas, actually. I suppose it would be cheaper to get a pelleted form vacuum press, and I have the experience to run it...but I totally want a printer...so...... What I';m saying is this...you have a very short window to sell me your legos before I start to think that maybe I should charge -you- for the postage and waste disposal.....
Well...I would get rid of them, but my wife wants to keep them around for the grandchildren (4 so far). So...I guess you get to purchase a shiny new 3d printer. I saw one at Sam's Club a while back. I think it was 800 or so and then, of course, you have to but the polymer too. Hopefully, they are cheaper now.
