(August 16, 2017 at 4:16 pm)rjh4 is back Wrote:(August 16, 2017 at 3:07 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Upon the combination of evidence and the lack thereof. There is a vast pool of irrefutable evidence regarding what gods actually are (as in, even if gods were real in some other sense, they would still be x, y and z)....meanwhile, there is no evidence whatsoever that they are what believers propose them to be or to have done - and simultaneously the things that believers propose are explained by evidenced things other than gods as well as completely refuted by evidence of what was -not- done..ever, by a god or anything else.
Once upon a time, I didn't have an opinion on whether or not there was a god or no god - I simply didn't believe in one. Your collective claims eradicated my agnosticism. Your gods do not exist, and your many claims have exhausted both my patience and my rational suspension of disbeleif with regards to "some other god, then" claims.
I'm a gnostic atheist. I don't mind telling you that your god, all gods, and the very notion of god.... is rank bullshit. Additionally, I'm an ethical antitheist, which is to say that even if I were wrong, against all evidence, it wouldn't matter. I still couldn't be a follower of christ, for example. I refuse to kill the better man for my own transgressions. A more complete refutation of god claims could not be offered. Not only is there evidence against them, there is no evidence for them...and if they somehow managed to be true despite all of that - it wouldn't matter a single iota to me.
Fair enough. Is it fair to say then that in your worldview (i.e., not God) one's thoughts are merely chemical reactions going on in the brain?
Khemikal Wrote:Tell your wife to be quiet while men are speaking, as god intended? JK
Nah man, I don't want a cheap one, I have other uses for it - custom irrigation and valve assemblies. The ones I'm looking at run 10-12k minimum without support or ancillary tool mounts. I fuigure making a few million legos before I try something more critical would be a way to practice on the cheap, lol. I need something that can assemble pieces capable of withstanding upwards of 800psi and 100c at a minimum and can be chemically welded.
Wow! Sounds nice. Do they have the CAD drawings available for Legos? My dream machine would be a large CNC router for woodworking, making woodworking jigs, etc.
(And I did get a good chuckle from your first sentence in the last quote.)
"atheist" merely means "off" on one claim. It is not a "worldview" it is not a "belief system" it is not a "political party" it is not a "economic view" and it is not a "religion".
When you ask an individual atheist what their position is on a topic, just ask, and skip the fucking bullshit word "worldview". We are not all the same and we don't always agree.