(July 15, 2017 at 2:39 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(July 15, 2017 at 11:38 am)Minimalist Wrote: Yet the Book of Romans is the same kind of absurd bible horseshit as the rest of it. Until you can prove that your basic assumption is true - that there is a god - what you have is human-invented crap.Not trying to prove God or change your mind; God is self-evident. Now, go into the corner and repeat 100 times or until you understand. Mathematics is where there is 'proofs'.
Face reality, boy.
Self-evident means that something doesn't need to be demonstrated. But it still can be demonstrated. In order for god to be self-evident he still needs evidence of his existence. Since there is no evidence of his existence, god is not self-evident.