RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
June 24, 2017 at 11:01 am
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2017 at 11:03 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 24, 2017 at 10:53 am)Little Henry Wrote: But this is an illusion.
No it's not. They really do think that some act x is wrong. This isn't hard to understand.
Quote:I say child rape is right, you say its wrong. Who is right or wrong?I;m right, and you're wrong. So very, very wrong. I think that you'll find this to be the case most of the time.
Quote:We cannot be both right as this would violate one of the laws of logic, namely the law of non contradiction.That's true, we can't both be right according to the same metrics simultaneously in contradiction to each other. Not sure why it matters...since we're not both right, in this case. I'm right, and you're wrong...so?
Quote:To people cannot be both right with opposing views.-in relation to a shared set of metrics..this is true, again, agreed...but again..it doesn't matter...sine we're not both right.
Quote:How can something be BOTH right and wrong? That violates one of the laws of logic, namely the law of non contradiction.
Who knows, but you're the only one babbling about it, contending that rape is somehow morally right.
Quote:If something is subjective it cannot be deemed wrong.OFC it can be. Being subjective isn't some sort of magic talisman.
Quote:Taste in movies is subjective.You're wrong at a fundamental level, they both sucked, hard.
If i say the movie Taken 1 is better than Taken 2, am i right or wrong? Neither. It is incoherent to say i am right.
If you say Taken 2 is better than taken 1...then how can Taken 1 be both better and worse than Taken 2 at the same time.
Quote:I am sorry, but right or wrong only exist in relation to facts.You keep saying that, but you don;t seem to understand that you're waffling back and forth between two senses of the word.
Look, this is getting unwieldy. Rather than repeatedly tell people that they can;t do something that they so obviously can do, and rather than tell people that whatever it is they;re doing is incoherent without knowing the first thing about their reasons....why not just ask in a non douchebaggy way? I told you at the outset I didn't think that morality is subjective....but your christer zeal must have missed that. Think about how silly you look, after all these pages?
What would jesus do?
(imma go grab a rental car right quick like, hopefully you'll find a way to improve the discourse by the time I get back)
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