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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
(June 26, 2017 at 5:40 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
As for his notion that desires are not a basis for morality . That's just dumb . Desires and goals are a primary motivator to morality to deny there role is just idiotic.

In a secular objective morality, the desire to be a good person (or, the desire for bad things not to happen to you, lol..honestly, any number of desires - desire for a fair society, etc) provides the compulsion.  

It takes a moral fact of the matter, an is, like "rape is bad because x and y and z" and turns it into an ought "therefore, you should not do that".

Then, there's more elaborate is-ought conversions, like the hypothetical super-rational being, or blind societal establishment (which i'm pretty sure a mafia like game of forum interaction could be made out of.......lol..basically it shows us how a bunch of completely nasty pieces of work laboring to secure nothing other than their own gain will invariably arrive at a set of rules or moral judgements we would identifiably recognize as empathetic, altruistic and fair in sum..tehe).
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by The Grand Nudger - June 26, 2017 at 8:10 pm

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