RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
July 10, 2017 at 4:39 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2017 at 4:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 10, 2017 at 4:33 pm)SteveII Wrote: 1. If God's actions are constrained by his infinite nature, then that is the explanatory stopping place for morality.That's just the stopping place for him..but I don't think that you're describing morality at all. God-as-tree. Sure, it gives us shade, but not out of the goodness of it;s heart....that's just what it does and it can't do anything else.
Quote: Just as the meter stick in Paris confers the property of meter-hood on all other meters in the world but itself does not rely on the property of meter-hood to explain or ground the fact that it is one meter long, God's nature does not rely on the property of good to explain itself, but all other morality is judged by it.What morality? If I judge -my- morality against the nature of your god...then your god is objectively deficient....or, you know, just made up. Take your pick.
Quote:It makes no sense to keep asking "why" about the meter stick so likewise it make no sense to keep asking "why" about morality.I think it's more accurate to say that you either can;t or rather wouldn;t answer that question. I have no trouble asking or answering it, objectively.
Quote:3. Everything is constrained by its intrinsic nature--especially a being that possesses superlative traits.Careful......that's shaky ground for other peices of your religious dogma and does nothing to explain or describe morality.
Quote:4. Define in a few sentences how, in your opinion, the basis or morality can be tied to harm. Otherwise I am going to waste time answering points I am not sure you are making.You mean...again? Because I've done so multiple times in this thread. Harm appears to be the -subject- of morality, not some ridiculous automaton of god that you refuse to answer any questions about. That's how. ;m willing to be that you won;t be able to describe gods goodness in any way or example that doesn't directly refer to harm...meanwhile, I'll have no shortage of examples wherein that same god directly contradicts what makes any of it's actions purportedly good in the first place.
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