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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
(July 13, 2017 at 1:00 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote: Well, for me personally if something does harm to another person then it is wrong. But is that because an objective standard says so, or is it just my feelings?
Would some bad thing™ be any less harmful if you felt a different way about it, or didn't feel anything about it at all?

Quote:What about a sociopath? Their morality can be very different because they don't feel empathy, right?
What about them....are we talking about their feelings or whether or not some thing x is harmful?

Quote:And even without being a sociopath, a person can believe that hurting a person isn't necessarily bad.
Meh...ish.  In any case, moral disagreement exists.  It exists regardless of whether or not there is an objective moral standard and would continue to exist if there were one.  Moral objectivity...not moral uniformity.

Quote:Maybe they think they are above that person and therefore have the right to hurt them.
An interesting take on the idea of harm.  Is it less harmful to a person when their betters beat them, as opposed to their equal or lessers?  Is it moral harmful if ones lessers beat ones betters?  

Quote:Or they believe everyone must fend for themselves and if you are too weak to keep others from hurting you then that's your problem.
That;s not morality...in fact, that;s the opposite of morality. That's an invocation of one possessing might, not of one being right.

Quote:What says I am right and they are wrong?
An objective moral standard, if you possess one.  Do you? Or, even if you do not...you, you are there to say that you are right and they are wrong - for whatever reason you wish to field.

Quote:I'm not saying that a moral standard has to be a god; it could be a natural force, a mathematical equation, or anything really. But I feel like there has to be something to make objective morality work. Otherwise, how can we know which person is right?
By referring to an objective standard.  

Quote:And just a random thought here, do animals factor into this at all? Or are we just focusing on humans?
Sure, why not, but why would it matter either way?
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by The Grand Nudger - July 13, 2017 at 1:05 pm

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