RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
July 13, 2017 at 4:16 pm
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2017 at 4:23 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Is that the only trick you know? At least get it right if you're going to repeat it. I was responding to Inks question, not laying out a case for objective morality. I'm tired of this mama-bird shit.
What makes something objective...as I have repeatedly stated, is it's status as being both independent of a particular subject, and demonstrably referent to an actual object. End of, that's it, that's all. Harm is both of these things, and is as fundamental to any religious morality as it is to a secular morality. It is available to all of us, and has the benefit of explaining -why- something is wrong, rather than declaring it to be so by fiat.
From the POV of moral subjectivism..whatever immorality is seen in the character of the biblical god makes as much sense as whatever subjective assessment of it is being offered - ala "That god story makes me feel filthy just thinking about it". Well, okay, I can understand why a person would trust their sense of disgust - it's pretty damned reliable for reasons that you don't believe in (lol).
From the point of view of my moral objectivism...the immorality of the bible-god is sensible specifically because the character of god manages to incur immense harm left right and center...and still has the finale up his sleeves. As I;ve already stated...that's as easy to remove as an objection as;
"we both know that shit never happened, and a good god wouldn't do it anyway"
Feel free to avail yourself of that at any point.
What makes something objective...as I have repeatedly stated, is it's status as being both independent of a particular subject, and demonstrably referent to an actual object. End of, that's it, that's all. Harm is both of these things, and is as fundamental to any religious morality as it is to a secular morality. It is available to all of us, and has the benefit of explaining -why- something is wrong, rather than declaring it to be so by fiat.
From the POV of moral subjectivism..whatever immorality is seen in the character of the biblical god makes as much sense as whatever subjective assessment of it is being offered - ala "That god story makes me feel filthy just thinking about it". Well, okay, I can understand why a person would trust their sense of disgust - it's pretty damned reliable for reasons that you don't believe in (lol).
From the point of view of my moral objectivism...the immorality of the bible-god is sensible specifically because the character of god manages to incur immense harm left right and center...and still has the finale up his sleeves. As I;ve already stated...that's as easy to remove as an objection as;
"we both know that shit never happened, and a good god wouldn't do it anyway"
Feel free to avail yourself of that at any point.
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