RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
July 15, 2017 at 8:28 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2017 at 8:31 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 15, 2017 at 8:16 pm)Astonished Wrote: And from an evolutionary standpoint it makes far more sense than anything theists claim; otherwise we'd be perfectly fine with slavery instead of instinctively feeling that it's an abhorrent thing. You have to be indoctrinated or sociopathic to think otherwise (or both). Deference to authority also makes more sense in an evolutionary sense because otherwise we would ONLY consider one authority to be viable and yet it can go in any direction imaginable, not towards the alleged 'one true god' and its will.OFC it makes more sense than fairies. It's hard to make less sense. Deference to authority is, to some extent, our evolutionary inheritance in that we belong to a genus that has elaborate and unmistakable displays and relationships surrounding dominance. However, a moral standard can both justify or delegitimize an authority. An objective morality standard would do so demonstrably.
Quote:You just can't remove subjective aspects from it so you have to take that into account. What act is worse than another, whose life is worth more than another if you can only save one or the other, etc., the shitty gritty things we don't deal with as often, thankfully. So while that removes the idea of an absolute authority (which makes no sense anyway) it doesn't render the whole thing irrelevant or incoherent whatsoever. It's all that works with whatever little we have and we don't have anything else that can actually be demonstrated to work in the same consistent way.An objective moral schema doesn't remove the idea of an absolute authority, in a meaningful sense it becomes one. This is -why- religions seek to conflate the character of their gods with an objective moral standard. I don't think that the things you consider to be subjective -are- subjective. I think that -we- are subjective agents attempting to manufacture moral statements by reference to purportedly objective standards. What's worse...murder or manslaughter? Why?
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