RE: Am I right to assume, that theists cannot prove that I am not god?
July 17, 2017 at 10:53 am
(July 16, 2017 at 10:50 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: Notice I mentioned following an Icelandic guy on Facebook? He's got great English, you don't have to be born in an English speaking country you just have to put some work into learning the language. Not being great at English doesn't make you inferior and I wasn't implying that. What I meant was that in order to have a proper conversation with less misunderstandings you need a better grasp of the language you are arguing in. It might be better for you to find an atheist forum in your native language and start a conversation there. I know a little Japanese, but I would never go onto a Japanese Christian forum to argue when I'm not fluent in the language.
Unfortunately you haven't considered one important point.
If I would go as you suggest into a native language forum I would never improve my English.
Here on the contrary I do learn something every day.
Little every day but little bricks at the end build a palace.
I guess you never thought about that Ink, did you?
Quote:Again, if you want to argue about a god separate from religion then let's do so. But most concepts/ideas of god come from religions and religious people, and so that's what we argue about. I'm fine discussing the possibility of a god who is not defined by any known religions. But then what defines it? What defines god for you?
Good question Ink.
But what about if God is within?
What about if you are God in a seed form?
What about if your seed once it sprout is God?
This Ink is spirituality.
Spirituality started with Shiva ages ago.
Long before any religion started.
Unfortunately few people follow spirituality these days.
Religions are the product of dogmas that have very little to do with spirituality.
Quote:Near Death Experiences are called near for a reason.
True, and the reason is that science is unable to explain how a person can die and then come back to life.
Quote:The person was not dead, just very close to death.
Wrong.
The person was certified dead by real doctors.
Quote:Close enough that they are considered clinically dead.
Dead is dead not close enough.
Heart stop, no blood or oxygen to the brain so dead dead not close enough.
Quote:As was mentioned before, no one has come back to life after being dead for days,
That doesn't mean that in the meantime these people could not have an NDE.
Quote:or having their heads cut off.
You go to the extreme Ink.
Why God would revive someone in that condition?
If God wanted to give an NDE He wouldn't choose someone which karma is so bad.
Quote:Jesus doesn't count because the only account of people witnessing his death is the Bible, which invented the character of Jesus in the first place.
Wrong.
Roman historians tell us that Jesus was a real person.
Quote:As has also been explained to you, no one can verify that they actually experienced anything. We can verify their clinical death, but not what went on in their heads. For instance, I can tell you that last night I dreamed of unicorns in a land of candy. And you must believe me because I have witnesses who verify I went to sleep last night and woke up this morning.
Wrong.
Many people could see from above what doctors and nurses were saying or doing.
Once back into their bodies told the doctors and nurses what they were saying and doing and doctors and nurses were surprised to see that a dead person could be conscious alive instead.
Just read some of these experiences to find out for yourself.
http://www.nderf.org/Archives/exceptional.html