RE: Am I right to assume, that theists cannot prove that I am not god?
July 21, 2017 at 4:33 am
(This post was last modified: July 21, 2017 at 4:59 am by Little Rik.)
(July 20, 2017 at 10:39 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote:(July 20, 2017 at 8:10 am)Little Rik Wrote: Peer review journal?
No, you will not find much about NDEs experiences in these journals.
Why?
Because these journals deal with the physical-mental world and considering that NDEs deal with the consciousness and the outside dimension is then obvious that you will not see any peer review about NDEs.
Take Sam Parnia which studied NDEs more than everybody else for several years and guess what was his conclusion?
He said that further studies are needed because he could not yet understand in positive or negative about them so all your crap of bull, horse and dogs are nowhere to be seen in any respectable study.
1) First of all Jesus never intended start a religion.
In fact he was against religions and he showed that all the time that is why the priests asked Pontius Pilate to put him on the cross.
So it would be good if you guys stop associated Jesus with religions.
2) As you say.........what philosophy we learn from him and his students and their students are what matters......
Correct Ast, whether the person in question is Socrates or Jesus people learn something and that is what matters.
A myriad of people learn from Jesus teachings even if the caste of priests screwed up his teachings by turning them into religious dogmas.
Not all people however fall into the religious trap.
Many people understand his messages free from religious dogmas.
You got a big problem Ast.
You come to quick conclusions well before you really understand anything.
There are peer reviewed journals about psychology, which deals with consciousness.
WRONG.
What psychology is all about?
Psychology is the scientific study of the mind and behavior. Psychology is a multifaceted discipline and includes many sub-fields of study such areas as human development, sports, health, clinical, social behavior and cognitive processes.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=psych...e&ie=UTF-8
I wish you knew what is the difference between mind and consciousness.
The mind can only grasp what is external while the consciousness is an internal process.
Quote:If NDEs are capable of being verified, as you claim, then there would be at least one peer reviewed study on it.
You should ask Mr. Sam Parnia about that.
The guy studied for several years the NDEs (in fact is the one who studied more than everybody else the NDEs) and at the end he surrendered to the fact that he could not getting anywhere.
The reason is very very simple.
There is a border to cross and by trying to cross that by using the mind is an impossibility.
Is like to call a plumber when you want to fix your computer or call an electrician when you want to fix your sink pipes.
It just doesn't work Ink that is why when you want to understand the consciousness you switch off the mind and engage in yoga meditation.
Quote:You can learn things from fictional characters all the time. That's not what's at issue here. Your claim was that Jesus was actually real, not whether or not we could learn anything from him. I can't really understand what you've got against religions. You are just like they are. Make a lot of claims, but have only "I feel it in my heart!" to back them up with. You've just made a religion of one and you cling to it just as irrationally as any other religious person would.
You too feel in your heart that you are right and other people are wrong.
What this has got to do with religions?
At least I do work to expand my consciousness.
You on the other end do nothing in that regard thinking that the mind is the tool to use to understand what we do not yet know in that field.
(July 20, 2017 at 9:46 pm)Astonished Wrote:(July 20, 2017 at 10:39 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: There are peer reviewed journals about psychology, which deals with consciousness. If NDEs are capable of being verified, as you claim, then there would be at least one peer reviewed study on it.
You can learn things from fictional characters all the time. That's not what's at issue here. Your claim was that Jesus was actually real, not whether or not we could learn anything from him. I can't really understand what you've got against religions. You are just like they are. Make a lot of claims, but have only "I feel it in my heart!" to back them up with. You've just made a religion of one and you cling to it just as irrationally as any other religious person would.
You're wasting your breath. Lickle Shit doesn't understand it, whether by choice or by genuine mental incapability.
Gee, how lucky I am to find an expert like you.
Please Ast try to help LR to understand these difficult issues.
1) What is the meaning of philosophy?
2) What is the difference between religions and spirituality?
3) What determine the wealth of a country?
Thanks brother Ast.
Please help LR to understand.