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Lol the bible is actually ok with pedophilia, proof from passage
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RE: Lol the bible is actually ok with pedophilia, proof from passage
(July 24, 2017 at 12:01 pm)Godscreated Wrote:
(July 22, 2017 at 1:50 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote: Women/children would die on their own you say? Well maybe they shouldn't have killed their husbands/brothers, or is god not smart enough to think of that? Also, if this is about providing for the children, why were the little boys not spared? Only the female children were spared, GC. Not the little male children, and not the adult women. This was absolutely not about providing for the defenseless when they had orders to kill most of the defenseless.

As for rape being primarily about brutality, you are absolutely wrong. It's about people taking what they want with no thought for what the victim wants. It doesn't have to be brutal at all, some girls go down without even a fight because they're drugged by someone they trust. Sometimes young people are tricked/manipulated into doing something they didn't really want to do. Rape is much broader than just "brutality".  And as I said in my post, which you conveniently ignored, even if they were married as adults, that would only be after years of slavery and conditioning. They would lack the ability and right to say no, and therefore can't give true consent. That means it would still be rape.

 You are assuming the worse for these girls/women and without any evidence as to how they were treated, why? Is it because that's what you want it to be, is it that you hate Christianity that much, what? 
 Okay I misstated rape as only physical abuse, though most rapes are violent for the woman involved. I doubt they had drugs they used in rape during those days. You do not know they were conditioned and as for slavery you are associating the slavery of the early America with that of Israel. The slavery in Israel was more of a servant type, but yes it was slavery nevertheless.

GC

Wow you are dense. Slave or servant, it means the woman was under the control of her master. And not because she wanted to be, but because she was forced into it after seeing her entire family murdered by the guy. She didn't have the ability to opt out of the sex, so she didn't have the ability to consent to it either. This makes it rape. You say the Bible doesn't specifically say the women were raped? Well guess what, it also doesn't specifically say they weren't.

I don't hate Christianity, I hate people like you who think that what happened in those verses was in any way good or moral. It wasn't. Not on any level.

(July 24, 2017 at 12:45 pm)Godscreated Wrote:
(July 22, 2017 at 2:29 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: You profess to believe in the Bible but you sure do call it a pack of lies a lot.


1 Timothy 1:13-14 (CEV) = "13 After all, Adam was created before Eve, 14 and the man Adam wasn’t the one who was fooled. It was the woman Eve who was completely fooled and sinned. "

 First of all 1st Timothy 1:13-14 doesn't say that at all, you should either find a source to copy that knows what they are talking about or find things for yourself.
 1st Timothy 2:13-14 are the verses stated. Paul used this to show that women shouldn't need to be teachers of men, if you had read a few more verses 11-15 you would have seen this, well maybe, you do not seem to understand scriptures because you are so narrow minded about them and will do anything to get them to say what you want.
 
Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man (Adam), and death through sin, so death spread to all men because all sinned. This verse shows us who is at fault for the results of sin, the verses you tried to quote shows that though Eve sinned first, she is not named as the one responsible, those verses are specifically speaking about women teaching men in the church.

GC

1 Timothy 2:11-15
11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

These verses are interesting. First, they show how Paul sucks at arguing. Basically: A. Women were formed second, B. Eve ate the fruit first, Therefore C. Women shall not have authority. This isn't a logical argument because Paul is making a judgement about an entire group of people (women) based on a sample size of one woman (Eve). This is like me saying all men are gullible idiots because Adam never questioned Eve and just ate the fruit because she told him to.
Second, it says that "women will be saved through childbearing". So men are saved by grace, women are saved by works? The more you quote the Bible, the worse it looks, GC.
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RE: Lol the bible is actually ok with pedophilia, proof from passage - by Inkfeather132 - July 24, 2017 at 1:23 pm

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