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Would it be worth it?
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RE: Would it be worth it?
(July 21, 2017 at 12:32 am)Astonished Wrote:
(July 20, 2017 at 11:34 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: There would be no personal growth if we lived in a utopia. While it seems like it would be an improvement, to remove suffering basically out of the human condition, it would actually create new problems, because you can't grow without adversity. (unfortunately)

We wouldn't be removing all suffering, though. Or perhaps what you're thinking of is struggle, purpose. We would still be able to strive for things like higher education, or athletic competition, or other recreational pastimes. As long as we find meaning in our lives we wouldn't stagnate. With everyone able to access new heights of education, of course we'd find new discoveries and things to study, maybe even start moving off-world. If all you're doing is removing that which bars us from reaching that, I don't see how that could lead to what you're suggesting. Boredom would just lead us to find something new to take interest in, and raise our ambitions if we can't find anything stimulating in that which we already know, thus forging ahead with new discoveries.

If we did reach a peak (unrealistic) where we knew everything there is to know, then we'd probably have become some uber-being beyond anything we could imagine ourselves becoming. But in the meantime, I'd take knowing that I'd never hear another gunshot in my neighborhood over having trouble sleeping wondering what Trump is going to do next.

The thing is, war in and of itself isn't the main problem, it's what drives people to go to war to begin with that is the problem, so in many cases that involves greed, psychopathic behavior, fear, love of power, etc. So, you'd have to ''cure'' that, and then when you do, wars, hate and violence would all stop.
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Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 20, 2017 at 11:05 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by vorlon13 - July 20, 2017 at 11:19 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 20, 2017 at 11:21 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by vorlon13 - July 20, 2017 at 11:27 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 20, 2017 at 11:31 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by *Deidre* - July 20, 2017 at 11:34 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 21, 2017 at 12:32 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by *Deidre* - July 21, 2017 at 8:28 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by mordant - July 21, 2017 at 12:24 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by *Deidre* - July 21, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by ignoramus - July 20, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Mister Agenda - July 21, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Cyberman - July 26, 2017 at 11:02 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Foxaèr - July 26, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 26, 2017 at 11:53 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 21, 2017 at 10:28 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Foxaèr - July 21, 2017 at 10:28 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 21, 2017 at 10:31 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Mister Agenda - July 21, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Foxaèr - July 21, 2017 at 10:43 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 21, 2017 at 10:52 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by mordant - July 21, 2017 at 12:36 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 21, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by *Deidre* - July 21, 2017 at 1:08 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Court Jester - July 21, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by mordant - July 22, 2017 at 6:57 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 22, 2017 at 10:38 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by mordant - July 22, 2017 at 5:21 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 25, 2017 at 10:52 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 25, 2017 at 11:38 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by mordant - July 26, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 26, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Court Jester - July 22, 2017 at 9:22 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 23, 2017 at 1:39 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by *Deidre* - July 21, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 21, 2017 at 4:09 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Cyberman - July 26, 2017 at 2:24 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 26, 2017 at 3:27 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Dropship - July 29, 2017 at 1:41 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Cyberman - July 29, 2017 at 5:48 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 29, 2017 at 9:58 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Losty - July 29, 2017 at 7:57 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2017 at 9:50 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by mordant - July 29, 2017 at 12:19 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 29, 2017 at 1:38 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by mordant - July 29, 2017 at 5:44 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 30, 2017 at 2:26 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Losty - July 30, 2017 at 2:50 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 30, 2017 at 3:21 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Losty - July 30, 2017 at 7:01 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by mordant - July 30, 2017 at 10:16 am
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 30, 2017 at 12:04 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by mordant - July 30, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: Would it be worth it? - by Astonished - July 30, 2017 at 2:04 pm

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