RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
July 27, 2017 at 11:55 am
(This post was last modified: July 27, 2017 at 11:59 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(July 27, 2017 at 2:16 am)Mathilda Wrote:(July 27, 2017 at 12:16 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Meh, I don't think it's right to tell a woman who feels uncomfortable with a naked biological male showering close to her own naked body that she just needs to "get over it" as though she's being petty or whatever.
According to you all male to female transsexuals are 'biological males'. You seem to continue having this idea in mind that all of them are basically men in drag. You are a bigot solely because you refuse to accept any new information which would mean that you have to change how you perceive other segments of the population.
And while we're on the matter, I didn't want to bump the old thread where I was criticised for saying that we're all female in the womb and then some become male·due to expression of the Y chromosome and hormonal washes, but a link to this was posted to the thinking atheist soon after so I bookmarked it for the next time you use the whole 'biological male' thing to hang your entire argument on
(July 27, 2017 at 12:41 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I never said anything about sexual assault. Maybe it's a women thing that men don't get, but many of us wouldn't feel comfortable being naked in front of another naked male body who is not our partner or our doctor. It's a privacy/embarrassment thing, not a fear of sexual assault thing.
Strawman argument. Who is suggesting that women have to shower with another male body?
Or do you have some kind of super power allowing you to read the DNA of every person that you meet? If so, how do you feel when you find yourself in a public shower with someone with an intersex condition such as Androgen insensitivity syndrome that people without your superpower would never realise?
If you look like a man and have male parts, I'm not going to feel comfortable with you seeing me naked unless you are my husband or my doctor. If youre going to shame me for feeling that, Mathilda, and if that makes me a bigot in your eyes, then so be it I suppose.
Also, i'm sure I'm not the only women here who feels that way about being seen completely naked, but of course, no one else is going to say anything because they don't want to be labeled as bigoted transphobes by people like you.
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