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Miracles in Christianity - how to answer
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RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer
(September 28, 2017 at 2:33 am)KiwiNFLFan Wrote: Hi, I am a former Catholic who has by and large rejected the Catholic religion. However, one thing keeps niggling away at me: miracles.

I have never experienced anything supernatural myself, but I have heard stories of various miracles happening in both the Catholic and Orthodox churches. One particular kind of miracle that I have no answer for is Eucharistic miracles - the communion bread starting to bleed, or in rarer cases, the bread and wine actually transforming into physical flesh and blood. One such miracle supposedly happened at Lanciano, Italy, in the 7th century. A priest had doubts about the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, and supposedly the bread turned into flesh and the wine turned into blood which coagulated. Scientists have tested the flesh and blood, which remain to this day, and have found it to be real blood and heart tissue. All the Eucharistic miracles that have been tested have been of blood type AB.

How would you answer these phenomena?
(emphasis is mine)

Bolded above. Heard stories, supposedly, etc... is exactly how these things work. If their claiming scientists studied anything, demand the names and dates, they'll come up empty. If they don't, then you can research for yourself whether the claim is for real. Usually when they vaguely state "scientist did something" it's a red flag their trying to steal credibility from the scientific community and that the claim is bullshit.

(September 28, 2017 at 4:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote: The same miracle happens everyday, it's the miracle of salvation. You nor I need those kind of things you referred to, know why, a miracle by definition is unexplainable. Relying on what the Bible and God teaches us is more important than miracles. Jesus told the Jews and their priest that they wouldn't believe in Him even though they saw the miracles preformed before their eyes. Jesus is the miracle man needs, try a protestant denomination for awhile and see if you can find what you're looking for within yourself.
Welcome and hope you do not give up, God's willing if you are.

GC

Same bullshit, different thread. Evidence, or shut the fuck up, GC.
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Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by KiwiNFLFan - September 28, 2017 at 2:33 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by ignoramus - September 28, 2017 at 2:57 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Fake Messiah - September 28, 2017 at 3:29 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Amarok - September 28, 2017 at 3:50 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by beepete - September 28, 2017 at 4:45 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by chimp3 - September 28, 2017 at 5:56 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by brewer - September 28, 2017 at 7:14 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Athene - September 28, 2017 at 7:43 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Harry Nevis - September 28, 2017 at 8:12 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Brian37 - September 28, 2017 at 9:16 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by KevinM1 - September 28, 2017 at 1:44 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Minimalist - September 28, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by brewer - September 28, 2017 at 6:35 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Godscreated - September 28, 2017 at 4:41 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Succubus - September 28, 2017 at 5:51 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Godscreated - September 29, 2017 at 11:54 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Minimalist - September 30, 2017 at 1:12 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by downbeatplumb - September 30, 2017 at 3:42 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Bob Kelso - October 2, 2017 at 11:57 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Cyberman - September 28, 2017 at 6:57 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Minimalist - September 28, 2017 at 4:48 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Minimalist - September 28, 2017 at 6:26 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Whateverist - September 28, 2017 at 6:35 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by brewer - September 28, 2017 at 7:31 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Cyberman - September 30, 2017 at 12:46 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Godscreated - September 30, 2017 at 1:03 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Cyberman - September 30, 2017 at 10:10 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Amarok - September 30, 2017 at 1:54 am
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RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Jehanne - October 1, 2017 at 5:32 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Succubus - October 1, 2017 at 8:00 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Ravenshire - October 1, 2017 at 8:21 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Bob Kelso - October 3, 2017 at 12:38 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Succubus - October 5, 2017 at 10:47 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Ravenshire - October 13, 2017 at 3:05 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Harry Nevis - October 13, 2017 at 10:45 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Bob Kelso - October 3, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Cyberman - October 3, 2017 at 5:10 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Succubus - October 4, 2017 at 12:41 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Drich - October 2, 2017 at 11:47 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by KiwiNFLFan - October 15, 2017 at 6:59 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by brewer - October 15, 2017 at 7:44 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by GUBU - October 15, 2017 at 9:10 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by brewer - October 15, 2017 at 9:38 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by drfuzzy - October 15, 2017 at 12:24 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by vorlon13 - October 15, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by brewer - October 15, 2017 at 3:37 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by KiwiNFLFan - December 19, 2017 at 5:24 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Grandizer - December 19, 2017 at 5:31 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by GUBU - December 19, 2017 at 6:42 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Godscreated - December 19, 2017 at 9:47 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Godscreated - December 21, 2017 at 1:04 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by drfuzzy - December 21, 2017 at 2:24 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Nay_Sayer - December 21, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Godscreated - December 22, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Nay_Sayer - December 22, 2017 at 1:24 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Godscreated - December 22, 2017 at 2:41 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Grandizer - December 22, 2017 at 2:45 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Nay_Sayer - December 24, 2017 at 3:16 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Godscreated - December 22, 2017 at 7:41 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by drfuzzy - December 22, 2017 at 11:42 am
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RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Minimalist - December 19, 2017 at 10:23 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Ravenshire - December 20, 2017 at 12:37 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by drfuzzy - December 19, 2017 at 6:36 pm
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by ignoramus - December 21, 2017 at 2:40 am
RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by drfuzzy - December 21, 2017 at 11:54 am
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RE: Miracles in Christianity - how to answer - by Minimalist - December 22, 2017 at 12:26 pm

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