(October 5, 2017 at 11:46 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(October 5, 2017 at 7:55 am)Brian37 Wrote: Guys, i am really not angry at any one individual on this board, my response has to do more with seeing media on cable news and on the networks spend tons of time on motive, and little to no time on access and flooded market.
It is true we need to fund mental health care, but firearms are still way too easy to obtain.
Owning firearms is a Constitutional right so why shouldn't they be easy to obtain?
(October 5, 2017 at 8:30 am)Little lunch Wrote: I think the primary reason for the shooting may have been spending too much time at casinos, Brian.They're going to pass a law that people will be limited to 8 hours total in casinos per week. All patrons will be injected with a chip that tracks their time in casinos and when there 8 hours per 168 hour time period is up they will receive an electric shock to encourage them to leave.
Because the sicko whom murdered 59 people and injured 500 HAD NO FUCKING RECORD OVER THE PAST YEAR WHEN HE BOUGHT 30 RIFFLES.
Owning firearms is a right. NO SHIT.
Please stop harping on that bullshit.
You have the right to sell porn, just not to 5 year olds.
You have the right to sell beer, but you have to check ID.
You cant have it both ways.
You cant say, "The mentally ill should not have them"
And I agree.
Then not take the responsibility as the seller to insure that the buyer isn't nuts.
Otherwise why is it illegal for bars to sell more booze to drunk people? Why is it illegal to sell booze to the underage?
BECAUSE IT IS VETTING before something goes wrong. That isn't a presumption of guilt.
If an aspiring pilot wants to fly a jet, do you simply go " meh, you don't need any vetting or training".
NO, so please stop harping on rights. THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE
This guy was disturbed, but because of our crappy laws, we basically sold a drunk driver a Sherman tank.
Demanding better vetting before a sale isn't a denial of rights.