List of reasons to believe God exists?

[The Grand Nudger]

So you continue now for two posts attacking the objectivity of my morality That's a classic straw man--finding something irrelevant that you think you have a stronger argument for. Whatever your opinion on my morality has nothing to do with whether your's is subjective. We don't need a discussion (that apparently I am not equipped to have). There is no amount of nuance you can inject into this issue that will escape the essential subjectivity of the pro-abortion position. 

I've merely pointed out that the moral foundation you expressed is not an objective moral foundation by definition, and that it does not refer to intrinsic value by definition.   

Repeatedly asserting that some position is subjective will not demonstrate that it is so.  You appear to be obsessed with the meaningless subjectivity of everyone having an opinion.  Well, sure, everyone has an opinion, they don;t all agree..but which opinions are wrong..and why?  Anyone who engages in this discussion in the context of morality is discussing an objective moral appraisal.

I didn't blow up the thread. Your nonsense about how atheists can have objective morality blew up the thread when it is clearly impossible and atheist philosophers for centuries have been telling you why.

-I posted a fairly large comment on objective morality..and your response was "Whatabout abortion".  C'mon...at least try.  Atheist philosophers (and "atheist philosophies) are in the majority among moral realists.  I don't know why you believe that they've been telling us that it's impossible.  Here again you find yourself factually..which is to say, objectively....wrong.

While moral realism as a subset has left the god proposition behind as uneccessary, that doesn't mean that moral realism is unavailable to you, as a believer.  Frankly, if something truly is objectively wrong..it's objectively wrong regardless of whether or not there is a god..and I'm having trouble understanding why we can't agree to that, between you and I?  

If we can't agree to that..which of us is actually the moral realist.....?  Food for thought....the contention that, in the absence of god, there is no objective morality, is nothing more or les than the contention that..in the absence of god, there are no facts. How's -that- for an absurd belief? Can we agree to the existence of facts? If we can't...what's the point in discussing anything? If you have to establish god before you can establish facts but you can't establish god without establishing facts...how do you propose to go about doing that for god or facts, moral or otherwise?

I think we can probably discuss the matter unencumbered, personally.