List of reasons to believe God exists?

[The Grand Nudger]

Ah, you bring up a good point (though not the one you intended). You can salvage your position but the price you will have to pay for your "objective morality" is to condemn elective abortion on the same grounds a theist would condemn it: all human life has intrinsic value--a position you can back up with both metaphysical and scientific reasoning AND is does not contain "biases caused by feelings, ideas, opinions, etc., of a sentient subject". There's your moral fact of the matter. Well, are you ready to march on a clinic? 

Why would there be some "price" to pay at all?  I did expand on my own position with regards to the subject of abortion, and I'm not sure why you continue to reference trivial subjectivity -or- meaningful subjectivity, between us...both being moral realists.  That;s just not an adequate grounds for moral assessments, in my ( our? ) opinion...and where I cannot establish some objective immorality (or where some accounting of all relevant facts of the matter produce a zero sum or inverted conclusion), I withhold moral condemnation.

That seems prudent, don't you think?  I'm not particularly enamored with abortion..and most pro-choice advocates aren't either, but that doesn't warrant my declaring that the legality of abortion is somehow an example of immorality or that having an abortion is, itself, immoral. Whenever the choice is between shit or twice as much shit, I'll take the single serving- and that's assuming shit is being served at all.

I think....and I;ve commented on this before, that your opinion up above is an expression of moral absolutism, that you think theres some requirement of absolutism..but there isn;t, and I;m not a moral absolutist...I'm a moral realist; an objectivist. This would explain why you may feel some duty to march on a clinic, whereas I don't. I just won't be marching -to- a clinic.

Where in any of my posts in this thread did I make the moral argument for the existence of God? You are deflecting.

Oh, my bad, I seemed to recall you connecting god with objective morality in the manner of best explanations and indicators of existence...but if that wasn't you, mea culpa.  Though...the comment still applies to those who do present such a rationalization, and I know for a fact it was presented in this thread.  What's your opinion of that?  I'm guessing you think it's a poor assertion, what with the distance you're putting between yourself and it?