List of reasons to believe God exists?

[The Grand Nudger]

I understand your position. Your moral system produces some level of objective morality on most questions because most questions have some objectively knowable fact of the matter. 

I don't think that you do, since my moral system is based only on the unambiguous, and if there is ambiguity I withhold judgement, as would be prudent, as I explained.

Setting aside that you use pejorative language to make you position appear stronger, you are completely wrong there is no ambiguity--even under your system. At the most, you have explicitly denied any rights or value to the child and at the least you have given preference to the mothers desires over the rights or value of the child. This is totally subjective.

That our laws cannot coherently justify a prohibition on abortion is a statement of fact, not opinion. Legality, is not morality, nor is it decided by my opinion. That people can have an opinion about it, is a trivial subjectivity. We have opinions about facts. Quelle surprise.

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I do understand, btw, Steve, that you think that killing a fetus is morally abhorrent...but you're not killing them, nor are you complicit in killing them..and all that will or can be achieved by you (or I) sticking our noses in business that is emphatically not ours..is to make the whole situation shittier.

Tell me, as a moral realist..what's worse.  A shitty situation..or one which, by your own actions..you've made even shittier?

You are literally saying that this issue is entirely subjective. Thank you.

Am I? I think it's strange that you think so, looking at the above..since I didn't. At some point you'll have to learn to use that term properly.  I'm asking you, as a moral realist, considering all relevant facts, whether it would be moral for you, by your actions, to make what you already consider to be a shitty situation worse. This question assumes, for the sake of conversation..that "baby killing" is immoral in a vacuum (an assumption shared by you and just about every other human beoing on the planet....). Is that where you're objective assessment of the morality..not the legality, the morality of abortion begins and ends? I;m not sure you're capable of such an assessment, if that;s the case. That would be half baked moral absolutism, not moral realism.

What's ambiguous about that, and do you think that the only way to determine which situation is worse will reduce to a meaningful subjectivity, rather than the trivial subjectivity of me asking you your opinion?

This is -your- failure to engage in an objective assessment and to understand the terms you're using or the subject we're discussing. It is not a failure of moral realism, not an issue of ambiguity, and not an indication of moral subjectivity.