RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 9, 2017 at 12:04 pm
(This post was last modified: December 9, 2017 at 12:15 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I suspect that this conversation will never be productive. No one's looking to go kill them some babies or justify killing them some babies. Nobody. I'll say it again, nobody...so just cut the shit?
The basis of the legal decision is nothing -other- than what the state can and can't force a person to do with their own body. That -is- the issue. The roe v wade case affirmed the -legality- of a woman's right to an abortion. It did not justify baby killing, or affirm any moral proposition whatsoever. If we can't engage with that fact, we cannot engage in a productive conversation -about- that fact. From the moral angle, anti-abortion laws were a disaster. That is a fact. If we cannot engage with that fact, then we cannot engage in any conversation -about- that fact...including whether or not there are any moral facts to be had.
If there aren't any such facts to be had..and it's all "just like, your opinion...man" then perhaps we should kindly shut the fuck up about how immoral abortion is? This thread has become a reason not to believe in a god. If there were one, he'd have struck some dipshits with lightning by now, out of pure disappointment. It's kind-of his thing, to hear the story told.
The basis of the legal decision is nothing -other- than what the state can and can't force a person to do with their own body. That -is- the issue. The roe v wade case affirmed the -legality- of a woman's right to an abortion. It did not justify baby killing, or affirm any moral proposition whatsoever. If we can't engage with that fact, we cannot engage in a productive conversation -about- that fact. From the moral angle, anti-abortion laws were a disaster. That is a fact. If we cannot engage with that fact, then we cannot engage in any conversation -about- that fact...including whether or not there are any moral facts to be had.
If there aren't any such facts to be had..and it's all "just like, your opinion...man" then perhaps we should kindly shut the fuck up about how immoral abortion is? This thread has become a reason not to believe in a god. If there were one, he'd have struck some dipshits with lightning by now, out of pure disappointment. It's kind-of his thing, to hear the story told.
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