RE: Men's Rights Movement
December 23, 2017 at 1:27 pm
(This post was last modified: December 23, 2017 at 1:36 pm by Mermaid.)
(December 23, 2017 at 1:22 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I didn't watch the documentary; but following the definition:
Quote:noun
noun: feminism
- the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.
Does it suggest that women and men are the same thing? but biology says otherwise.
The crash against the reality -which is the difference between men and women-, is staggering in my opinion. It's a very bad thing for men to get pregnant or for women to produce semen.
If a woman is producing semen from her vagina, something is seriously wrong with her.
If a man gets pregnant, something is seriously wrong with his anatomy.
I think feminism fails because men and women are not the same. The misunderstanding is a misunderstanding of definitions; even in the animal kingdom females and males differ; one example is bees; another is lions.
Feminism -to me at least- is a group of angry women pouring their wrath on males; taking all men for the sins of few...or maybe many. But definitely not all
A better thing, is to give male and female genders their rights; and acknowledge the biological differences.
Men go hunt because they have more muscle mass. If Rachel wants to join the hunt; she can be my guest but she won't grow as much muscle mass as the men; and moreover she is a human; not a cougar, and of course she's not a black widow.
It is most definitely not that men and women are the same, that is ludicrous. Of course we are different.
(December 23, 2017 at 1:22 pm)pool the matey Wrote: Mermaid, even though I can't directly relate with your experience I can understand the emotion behind your thoughts. There is no denying women face societal pressures to adhere to feminine virtues. Don't feel like I'm belittling your hardships in your life but men face the exact same type of societal pressure to adhere to masculine virtues, it's unfair to think one side face more hardships than the other, I myself feel men face much more social problems than women because I'm a man and I relate more to the male experience but even though I feel this I can imagine women face just as much different but equal inequalities as well, I'm of the opinion that equal importance should be given to both. 🙂I am not claiming that everyone doesn't endure hardships. What I am claiming is that too many people gloss over, deny and even get angry about women (and minorities, actually) speaking out against injustices.
Another thing to note is a woman won't have the exact same "bro status" or "one of the guys" status within a guy group the same way a man won't have the same "one of the girls" status or "bestie status" within a girl's group, mainly because there is a certain limit or etiquette to be maintained when dealing with people of the opposite sex no matter how close you are with them the comfort level won't be as same as with same sex friends.
As far as social problems are concerned I think men have more social problems because I'm a man and I relate to the male experience more, I won't be able to relate to the female experience as much but I'm still of the opinion that equal importance should be given to both, I think you should too, though I think you already do but if someone is reading this that don't then I direct this to them.
Of course everyone has to endure cultural pressures, and I would not minimize that. That's kind of the point. Do you feel that men and women are on a level playing field? I do not.
Men and women are different, I don't think anyone denies that. The key is to listen and not be dismissive or defensive. An example: I got in to a conversation with a large group of men and women about how women usually have a certain fear of bodily harm while dating and are always on guard, that's just life as a woman. Most of the men got angry and defensive as they are not all rapists and would never pose a threat to women. Of course not. But the fact remains, women don't know that, so we have to be careful and toe a line while meeting up with people we don't know and can't trust yet. That is just the way it is. I find this to be a very very difficult concept to effectively communicate.
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