(December 29, 2017 at 12:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(December 29, 2017 at 12:40 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm sorry, I stand corrected. You referred to The Red Pill, but didn't post it. That doesn't negate the point I'm making, which is that when you write:
-- discussing the merits of her feminism, and your take on it, is very apt. You certainly had no problem offering your own opinion of feminism, but get frustrated when others don't share your outlook and instead offer their own?
You opened the discussion yourself. It's a good discussion.
I'm not sure how you've drawn all those conclussions.
1. I said "many feminist movements are out of line in being against men." I wasn't giving an opinion on feminism in general.
2. I'm not sure what you mean about "discussing the merits of her feminism." I somply said that the documentary is about a woman who started out calling herself a feminist and now says she no longer does. Which is true.
3. I'm not "frustrated about people's opinions on feminism." I'm frustrated at people having a problem with others saying some men's issues are valid. Im frustrated with people having a problem with a person being for womens rights but choosing not to use the lable of feminist on themselves. Im frustrated about people calling ME anti feminist for simply saying some men's issues are worthy of discussion.
(December 29, 2017 at 12:45 pm)Grandizer Wrote: So say it then. Say that women have it worse than men in this patriarchal world, while saying that men have disadvantages that nevertheless deserve to be addressed, even though they pale in comparison to what women have to go through.
Do you agree with the statement above?
Also, here's what you could've done for a thread instead of this current thread.
You could've pointed out in your OP that women face a lot of issues that need addressing, and they are worth continuing to address in this world that clearly privileges men over women. But for this thread, I'd like to talk about the disadvantages men face in this patriarchical world as well, but of course without taking away from the fight for women's rights. What are some of the issues that men have, and what can we do to fix them?
Something like that.
Instead, you made your OP about a biased propaganda video made by a former feminist who "realized" feminism just didn't cut it for her anymore after realizing MRAs (clearly known for the ugly things they have said about women) had some "good" points to make. Your remark that she used to be "very feminist" clearly shows what your stance is on this matter (btw, I note you did not deny you had an anti-feminist agenda), and you really came up with this thread to have a go at feminism just as much as talk about men's issues.
I'm glad quite a number of members saw through this bullshit.
Ok dude, I will be SURE to say "But women have it worse!" ...Every time I bring up a man's issue, as not to offend your sensibilities. I'll remember what the ridiculous annoying little man from atheist forums told me (a woman) to do.
Then just mention mens issues if you dont want to write too many words. Why even bring up feminism at all? Your whole thread, starting with OP and your responses, betrays your agenda, and glad you find me annoying little man.