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Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
(March 3, 2018 at 11:21 am)Khemikal Wrote: Sure, and they have their reasons for that

Do they? What are those reasons? From what I've read the 10 nmol/L limit was arbitrary, or biased toward trans women. Studies show that 99% of female athletes are below 3.08.  

Quote:..however...if the allowable level were the same would you have any issue?  This could be achieved by either allowing higher t levels in cis females or by insisting that trans competitors not compete until their own levels have floored.  That is the current discussion the ioc is having.  

You can't simply allow female bodies to produce more T, and I don't support doping by cis women. If trans women were limited to 3.08, that would be part of making things fair, but still doesn't address certain aspects of adult transitions.

Quote:I'm entirely okay with "odd shaped bones" as a whispy difference between one competitor and another.  That's already true, anyway, between cis competitors.  

Putting something that wasn't said in quotation marks - you're just calling out your own straw man? Bold strategy, Cotton. We're not talking about odd shaped bones. In this case, we're talking about height and reach. Those are advantageous in volleyball, and she likely would have less of them if she hadn't gone through puberty as a male. Hormone therapy as an adult doesn't take those advantages away.

Quote:Wonderful, then you should have absolutely no problem with trans athletes given a more relevant set of regulations, the kind of regulations now being discussed.  Correct?

If the regulations require puberty blockers and T levels at 3.08 or less, I'm OK with it.
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil - by John V - March 3, 2018 at 12:06 pm

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