RE: Human Reason and Christian Denominations
April 7, 2018 at 3:55 pm
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2018 at 5:14 pm by vulcanlogician.)
(April 7, 2018 at 7:50 am)Godscreated Wrote:(April 7, 2018 at 1:20 am)Jenny A Wrote: What I haven't gotten right is Christian theology.
The denomination I was raised in is irrelevant. No denomination I know of grapples with the fact that Jesus preached socialism and an immediate new order on earth. Unless you twist his words to hell, that is what he was, an apocalyptic rabbi speaking to the Jews about a kingdom earth to be ruled by the 12 disciples (apparently Judas' betrayal had yet to occur to him at time he made that promise).
Christians should call themselves Paulites, because they sure don't follow Jesus. Christian theology is based on Paul, at the expense of the Gospels. But if you choose Paul, just remember that marriage is just barely more honorable than adultery. Better to marry than burn.
You still have it all wrong, the kingdom you speak of is the church and the disciples were to lead out in building Christ's bride. The socialism you speak of is Jesus telling us to help the needy, that isn't socialism by any stretch of the imagination. Jesus was not a rabbi even though some called Him by that title. Jesus never was recorded speaking directly to Judas except for the betrayal. Paul's teachings do not contradict what Jesus taught because Paul's teachings came directly from Jesus. Paul wasn't against marriage he taught that one did not necessarily need to be married if marriage wouldn't suit him, Paul was teaching devotion to Christ first the same thing Jesus taught. I'm a Southern Baptist and all parts of the Bible are just as important as any other. You have preached this same ol' message for a while now and it is as unworthy as it was the first time you brought it up. You must have left the church because this is all you got from the scriptures, this isn't the way to a Christian life, it's you who twist scriptures not the majority of Christians and as for you ever and I mean ever being a Christian in the past that was impossible.
GC
What a bunch of dogmatic horseshit, GC. Paul's teachings did not come directly from Jesus. They came from his own warped mind. The only reason people think that Paul was teaching Christianity is because they compressed his message into the same book as the Gospels. It's obvious to anyone who's read Paul's epistles that he was blissfully unaware of the Sermon on the Mount or any of Christ's parables. But if you can fool people into thinking that the OT is about Jesus, a simple bit of similar illogic can't fail to make the epistles congruous with the Gospels. But anyone who hasn't been sold the "package deal" (like Jenny) can see the difference like night and day.
