(April 11, 2018 at 1:37 pm)Joods Wrote:(April 6, 2018 at 4:29 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: That sounds silly to me too! We all have different backgrounds, different biases, and different understandings about a number of things. I wouldn't expect Christianity to be any different. I don't think that any of us, are above reproach; I've been wrong on things before, I changed my mind on things, and I've had to eat crow on occasion. I'm still growing, still learning, and I'm sure still screwing up.
I do disagree, however, that any of this means that people are just making things up (perhaps some are). But some of us, don't believe that we are free to just make things up, or that thins are subjective. Some believe that there is an objective truth, that we are trying to achieve.
So the fact that Christians claim that the "bible is the infallible word of God, means nothing?
So many Christians come here and preach that atheists don't understand the word of god (the bible), accusing us of having never read the bible, or that there are theists who aren't True Christians© because they don't understand the bible. We have one theist who claims he never mis-translates the bible. That it is everyone else who does it.
This is quite simple. If your religion is making the claim that the bible has been translated from translations of translations of copies of copies of copies of original manuscripts (that no one has ever been able to prove exists), then the bible can only be interpreted in one way. And that way would be the way that those who have transcribed the document, intended for it to be read.
Unless you're all just making this shit up and can't prove in any way that your particular type of Christianity got it right.
I'm gonna go with that. Yeah. It's definitely that. What the bible is, is a fictional work of literature that, just like any other novel, has flaws and gaps and some holes in the story. Problem is, it probably could have been written better had editors and other people in the book business been around back then to check facts, spelling and grammar.
Even important stuff is ambiguously penned.
James 2:24
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.