Human Reason and Christian Denominations

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So the fact that Christians claim that the "bible is the infallible word of God, means nothing? 

So many Christians come here and preach that atheists don't understand the word of god (the bible), accusing us of having never read the bible, or that there are theists who aren't True Christians© because they don't understand the bible. We have one theist who claims he never mis-translates the bible. That it is everyone else who does it. 
This is quite simple. If your religion is making the claim that the bible has been translated from translations of translations of copies of copies of copies of original manuscripts (that no one has ever been able to prove exists), then the bible can only be interpreted in one way. And that way would be the way that those who have transcribed the document, intended for it to be read. 

Unless you're all just making this shit up and can't prove in any way that your particular type of Christianity got it right.


I'm gonna go with that. Yeah. It's definitely that. What the bible is, is a fictional work of literature that, just like any other novel, has flaws and gaps and some holes in the story. Problem is, it probably could have been written better had editors and other people in the book business been around back then to check facts, spelling and grammar.

Even important stuff is ambiguously penned.

James 2:24
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.      

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 You throw that out as if there's a contradiction between the two, I do not see it want to give me an explanation.

GC

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Pick one of them and we can discuss.

I can't back down from challenge, especially if I have advanced claims concerning it. I didn't say that I could defend the arguments in the link, but you said you could refute them. I put it in the spoiler box below. It does appear to contain a contradiction.

It's important to recognize, however that even the Bible says that Paul never knew the living Jesus. What has survived the ages is a collection of letters which might very well contained Paul's own opinions on things. (You must admit that at no time does Paul refer to his own letters as the inerrant word of God.) Anyway, here is an excerpt from the link:

If you can't defend it then that means you do not understand it, so why put it out there as if you knew exactly what was meant, you all want us to defend from the scriptures yet you guys won't do the same thing most of the time and sense the scriptures are what you protest as being contradictive you should by necessity use the scriptures to prove your point and not someone else's opinion. If you haven't an opinion of the scriptures through knowledge of them then what do you actually have, not much as I see it.
 
I do not believe you will ever get an argument from the Christians here that Paul knew Jesus while He lived here on earth. Paul never says, but Paul and Jesus were alive at the same time. Paul did come to know Christ when he met Him on the road to Damascus and the three days he was in prayer while blind. I've never seen Christ in physical form but I've met Him many times in prayer and the lives of others. By the way why would Paul give so much advice to others and the churches he helped to establish if He didn't believe he was giving them the advice that came from God to him. Paul's life shows us that he was never in this for his own glory, he was doing that before he met Christ.
 
The rest has been well answered by Alpha Male and no need in me trying to add to what he excellently posted.

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