(April 11, 2018 at 1:37 pm)Joods Wrote:(April 6, 2018 at 4:29 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: That sounds silly to me too! We all have different backgrounds, different biases, and different understandings about a number of things. I wouldn't expect Christianity to be any different. I don't think that any of us, are above reproach; I've been wrong on things before, I changed my mind on things, and I've had to eat crow on occasion. I'm still growing, still learning, and I'm sure still screwing up.
I do disagree, however, that any of this means that people are just making things up (perhaps some are). But some of us, don't believe that we are free to just make things up, or that thins are subjective. Some believe that there is an objective truth, that we are trying to achieve.
So the fact that Christians claim that the "bible is the infallible word of God, means nothing?
So many Christians come here and preach that atheists don't understand the word of god (the bible), accusing us of having never read the bible, or that there are theists who aren't True Christians© because they don't understand the bible. We have one theist who claims he never mis-translates the bible. That it is everyone else who does it.
This is quite simple. If your religion is making the claim that the bible has been translated from translations of translations of copies of copies of copies of original manuscripts (that no one has ever been able to prove exists), then the bible can only be interpreted in one way. And that way would be the way that those who have transcribed the document, intended for it to be read.
Unless you're all just making this shit up and can't prove in any way that your particular type of Christianity got it right.
I'm gonna go with that. Yeah. It's definitely that. What the bible is, is a fictional work of literature that, just like any other novel, has flaws and gaps and some holes in the story. Problem is, it probably could have been written better had editors and other people in the book business been around back then to check facts, spelling and grammar.
I don't think that a conclusion of it is fiction follows from any of what you presented here.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther