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Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
(April 7, 2018 at 10:52 pm)Whateverist Wrote:
(April 7, 2018 at 4:46 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Khem is too gnostic for my liking. Granted... he's gnostic about the plausible things, which speaks to his benefit, but he's suspicious about a mind that's open to all possibilities (ie critical of agnosticism). That's too anti-Socratic for my tastes, and I challenge him on it when it pops up.


Yep.  (Fixed that for you.)  I'm more cautious/tentative/mealymouthed .. what's the word I'm looking for?  Viva la difference!

(April 7, 2018 at 10:33 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: But there are many things I know as obvious facts.  But then there are things that require much research into.  The paranormal is one of these things that requires much researching into.


It almost seems that the paranormal is a necessary category from your perspective.  Why?

If we dismiss the paranormal claims these researchers make based upon the shortcut methods skeptics use, then that is treating these researchers as though they are dumbfounded and denying the most obvious facts of life.  It's like saying to them:

"It's as simple as this and any paranormal researcher who argues against this would have to be in denial, dumb, and having a sense of wishful thinking."

But these are highly intelligent researchers we are talking here who have had a lot of education and training.  To just dismiss their research based upon shortcut methods would be very close-minded.  Therefore, I think there are no shortcuts and that a long journey to reach the final destination really is necessary.  It's as they always say.  The road to truth can be a long journey.  Furthermore, since these paranormal researchers are highly intelligent and have had a lot of education, then the objections they make to the skeptics are good, intelligent objections. But the skeptics treat these researchers as though their objections are dumbfounded and a waste of time. 

In other words, these skeptics are being very close-minded here and do not bother to fully look into these objections.  They just stop at a certain point and proclaim victory.  But their claims of victory are founded upon their own close-minded objections which have already been addressed by these researchers. As you can see here, there are basic facts of life we know and there are no debates about these things such as the fact that we all grow old and die or that an orange is a juicy fruit. But as for things that have a lot of debate about them such as the paranormal or the idea that vaccines cause autism, there are no shortcuts to arriving at the truth. There is so much to keep an open mind to. Therefore, in order to arrive at the truth in these scenarios, that requires a long journey all the while keeping an open mind to all the research done and all the objections that are being said and addressed.
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Astreja - April 6, 2018 at 11:10 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by GUBU - April 7, 2018 at 4:49 am
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by tjakey - April 7, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Transcended Dimensions - April 7, 2018 at 11:23 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by GUBU - April 8, 2018 at 5:25 am
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by haig - April 7, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by haig - April 8, 2018 at 7:00 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by haig - April 8, 2018 at 9:39 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by haig - April 8, 2018 at 1:38 am
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by emjay - April 8, 2018 at 9:45 am
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by emjay - April 8, 2018 at 1:37 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by emjay - April 8, 2018 at 2:32 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 8, 2018 at 10:05 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 8, 2018 at 10:18 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 8, 2018 at 10:25 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 8, 2018 at 10:31 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 8, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by haig - April 8, 2018 at 11:04 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Fireball - April 10, 2018 at 12:16 am
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by haig - April 9, 2018 at 5:17 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by haig - April 10, 2018 at 1:01 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 10:09 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 10:15 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 10:18 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 10:24 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 10:41 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 10:45 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 10:52 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 10:58 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 11:03 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 11:08 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 9, 2018 at 11:16 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 10, 2018 at 2:16 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 10, 2018 at 2:29 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 10, 2018 at 4:54 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 11, 2018 at 1:19 am
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 11, 2018 at 1:49 am
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 11, 2018 at 1:56 am
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 11, 2018 at 2:24 am
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 11, 2018 at 9:52 am
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 11, 2018 at 12:14 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 11, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by robvalue - April 11, 2018 at 12:49 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 11, 2018 at 2:17 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 11, 2018 at 2:33 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by brewer - April 20, 2018 at 2:58 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by brewer - April 20, 2018 at 3:01 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 20, 2018 at 2:41 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by Foxaèr - April 20, 2018 at 7:35 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 21, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions - by KevinM1 - April 21, 2018 at 1:30 pm

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