RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 14, 2018 at 9:10 am
(This post was last modified: November 14, 2018 at 9:45 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 13, 2018 at 5:39 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: Yes, but the capacity for them to exist had to be there.Sure, and since it was, and since both of those things..peeners and the will to use them...... did eventually arise by the entirely natural means of descent with modification...there is no need to invoke a meat fairy to explain either.
(November 13, 2018 at 7:01 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: How do you know if anyone was starving back then? You weren't there. And are you seriously claiming food does not grow naturally all over the earth? Have you never picked a berry, eaten an apple, had some nuts, rice, potatoes, Have you heard of the Paleo diet? People are slimming down all over the place from following it. My doctor even follows it. What people are doing is adding chemicals to food to make them more addicting so they rake in the bucks and they are making everyone fat. I know we have enhanced and sweetened some foods (for money again) but there is a ton of food that just tastes good naturally.The same way you could know, if you wanted to. We observe that the remains of human beings in pre agricultural societies show signs that would, if we saw them in a living human being today, indicate starvation (along with a whole host of other ailments we have since produced treatments for). The first agriculturalists were only marginally better off...and had to contend with what we call the hungry gap until suitable cold and hot weather cultivars, season extension methods...and inter-latitudinal trade were developed.
Of the list of things you just mentioned...berries, apples, nuts, rice, and taters...-all have been engineered by us to be as you know them today. They didn't start out that way. Berries and apples did not require the big, sweet, juicy fruits that you eat. In point of fact, those things are liabilities to both in the wild and you'll find that wild berries are more seed than anything else. Almonds, as an example..were bred out from a cultivar that was lethal to us, as were taters...and rice (like corn, form before) did not produce a useful seed until we sought to make it so.
Thje real paleo diet was something known as starving until you yourself were eaten. The paleo diet you are referring to..is marketing (I fucking knew it, part of your religion is based on quack advertising, lol), made possible by our having engineered those foodstuffs and created a system of distribution to get them to you.
Quote:Everena: We did not create food or anything else on this planet and why on earth do you think we did??? We just took what was already here and sometimes modified it (for more money)We modified living organisms simply to survive. Agriculture predates money by a few thousand years...but, is actually one of the things we invented money for. It's not easy to carry a bushel of corn in your pocket.
(unless you have very, very large pockets)
Quote:Everena: False, all of what we eat grows naturally, (including meat,eggs, dairy) and then is sometimes later modified for a number of reasons including shelf life. Back to school with you.Agriculture is the definition of an unnatural system. Ever notice that you don't run across tomato forests when you're out there camping?
Quote:Everena: False. We grow enough food each year to feed 10 billion people
Yes, -we- do..we engage in the systematic destruction of natural environments to favor (usually) a single crop, that we have created, and which cannot exist without our constant intervention....so that we might feed the people around us, which would otherwise be impossible...and..again, even while we do this, natural stocks collapse due to consumption and people still starve.
What does meat fairy do? What is meat fairy's contribution here?
Quote:Everena: If it's here, it's natural on our planet. We aren't making food out of stuff from other planetsThat you have an idiosyncratic definition of what is or isn't natural, the only purpose of which is to argue with me... doesn't demonstrate a thing or argue against any fact that I have seen fit to gift you with so that you don't sound like such an idiot going forward.
Quote:Everena: BullshitYou'll have to be a tad bit more specific, lol?
Quote:Everena: There are 7.8 million different species of life all accessing a food supply. 11.7 million when you include plant life that also requires food. Grip reality soon.Yes, and the food supply which they are accessing..is each other. Again, what use is meat fairy in all of this?
Quote:Everena: Social problems are ours to fix and we are perfectly capable of fixing them. Anything that is wrong here is our fault, not GodsAll problems of natural evil can only be your meat fairy's grand design..and if there is no natural evil by which to refine us , then the soul mill has no engine by which to work. You cannot maintain this objection here and your beliefs..rationally, consistently, and simultaneously.
Either your god intentionally created us as we are, on this rock as it was, or it didn't. Make up your mind.
Quote: Everena: FALSE. We eat what is available to eat on this planet.LOL. OFC it is nutbar. And....?
Quote:Everena: False. I can go pick willd growing food right now. Grip reality soon.OFC you can, but that doesn;t change the fact that your fridge is chock full of shit that isn't "wild grown"...and theres a better than fair chance that whatever you're thinking of as "wild grown" food..is actually a product of our intervention.
(November 13, 2018 at 7:55 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: False. I am just not brainwashed by atheist propaganda and bullshit.If you could present some examples of atheist propaganda and bullshit that would be helpful. I'm not convinced that you even know what atheism is.
Quote:Everena: Wow, I cannot believe I missed this beauty. There is nothing surviving and fucking that does not possess intelligence genius (except maybe you)That would be a discovery worthy of a nobel prize. Go, collect it.
Quote:"Nothing" doesn't care.....................................? Everena: EXACTLY Checkmate atheist, checkmate......Checkmate, what, pigeon?
-ya really need to learn to use the quote function..this shit is atrocious.
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