(November 13, 2018 at 12:57 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Everena, are you from rich state in USA?

(November 13, 2018 at 12:58 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: What a fool.

Quote:What matters is what they can prove. According to the quantum biologist in the article I posted 3 times now, it is a matter of when, not if.

A claim about something they *might* find in the future is proof of nothing, dumbass.
Desperation much ?
LOL

(November 13, 2018 at 2:11 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(November 13, 2018 at 2:05 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: I understand evolution and natural selection far better than you do. It is a process fool, not a first cause of anything. The ability of have a sex drive and genitals had to be there inititially or it never would have happened!! What part of that is HARD for someone like you to understand? Perhaps read it twice and then retake high school level biology.

Neither sex drives nor genitalia were present at the outset of life (or for quite some time thereafter).  They simply weren't required.  In this, both things are very much like your meat fairy..though, unlike your meat fairy..both did evolve and do now exist.

(November 13, 2018 at 5:39 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 13, 2018 at 2:11 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Neither sex drives nor genitalia were present at the outset of life (or for quite some time thereafter).  They simply weren't required.  In this, both things are very much like your meat fairy..though, unlike your meat fairy..both did evolve and do now exist.

Everena: Yes, but the capacity for them to exist had to be there.

(November 13, 2018 at 5:24 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 13, 2018 at 5:16 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: Abiogeneis is a hypothesis and typing things larger does not make them true. Why don't you get an education rather than pretending you have one on the internet?

Does putting them in boldface make them true?  For someone with as much education as you claim, you have amazing difficulty mastering something most people master rather quickly.

(November 13, 2018 at 5:26 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You contend, then, that you are a hindu and/or a buddhist, or that your beliefs accurately describe the hindu or buddhist beliefs of a billion people? 
 
Everena: No, I am no religion. I think all religions are man made but with a great purpose in mind. Some may have been inspired by prophets of God, we really just don't know. I believe in karma and reincarnation. That is what we agree on and that is what we were discussing.

Karma is also mentioned in the Bible over 80 times including: eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, reap what you sow, live by the sword, die by the sword, Everyone will be salted with fire, consider carfully what you hear, with the measure you use, it will be measured to you and even more etc etc Christian webpage devoted to this subject  https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-...out-karma/

Karma is also mentioned numerous times in the Koran: Here is a Muslim webpage devoted to this subject: https://understandquran.com/quran-tell-us-karma-cc.html

Also, although it is not taught in church, many Christians believe in reincarnation.

I think that you just threw your own ad pop under the shortbus, there, Ev.

(November 13, 2018 at 5:34 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Everena, you may want to read this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

(November 13, 2018 at 3:43 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(November 13, 2018 at 3:28 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: Had to actively breed and cultivate our food while we were eating what? There is literally tons of food that grows naturally and it is far better for you than processed crap.

While we were starving..Ev.  While we were starving.  Let that sink in.
Everena: How do you know if anyone was starving back then? You weren't there. And are you seriously claiming food does not grow naturally all over the earth? Have you never picked a berry, eaten an apple, had some nuts, rice, potatoes, Have you heard of the Paleo diet? People are slimming down all over the place from following it. My doctor even follows it. What people are doing is adding chemicals to food to make them more addicting so they rake in the bucks and they are making everyone fat. I know we have enhanced and sweetened some foods (for money again) but there is a ton of food that just tastes good naturally.

While there may be tons of food that's far better for you than "processed crap"..whatever you take that to mean, we also created -that- food, ourselves.
Everena: We did not create food or anything else on this planet and why on earth do you think we did??? We just took what was already here and sometimes modified it (for more money)

  Very little that we eat grows naturally
Everena: False, all of what we eat grows naturally, (including meat,eggs, dairy) and then is sometimes later modified for a number of reasons including shelf life. Back to school with you.


what does is being depleted so quickly it will not remain for long
Everena: False. We grow enough food each year to feed 10 billion people   https://www.researchgate.net/publication...End_Hunger

(unless meat fairy does a new fish drop just off the continental shelf or something)...and even with all of that, a significant amount of us still starve.

What lesson was meat fairy trying to teach us by wrapping us in these bodies and failing to provide any viable food source for our populations?  

Quote:Everena: What is it that you think did not exist? OMG

Take a walk over to your moms fridge and open it up.
Everena: My mom is dead. She died of cancer at age 46.  

You are going to find the products of human selection.  You may imagine that the stuff in your fridge always existed, or was "natural"......but it isn't.  
Everena: If it's here, it's natural on our planet. We aren't making food out of stuff from other planets

That's just marketing..........good lord, don't tell me that your god beliefs are based, even in part, on the label that some clever producer came up with to trick you into buying their almond milk....?

Quote:Everena: If you mean the intelligence that put plants on this planet (you know-plants, grass, grain aka what meat eats)

No intelligence put plants on this planet, and the plants that were on this planet when we arose were so insufficient that we had to breed them out while we starved to be the things you eat and take for granted today. 
Everena: Bullshit

Consider what you're saying..here..really.  Do you actually think that a bunch of grass floated down from meat fairy heaven and laid itself into the plains.....?  So what if it did, because that grass..that you now call corn..was inedible.

Everena: There are 7.8 million different species of life all accessing a food supply. 11.7 million when you include plant life that also requires food. Grip reality soon.
 

Quote:Everena: Who do you know personally that is starving? As far as the starvation problem in this world, it Christians who have reduced it by more than half of what it used to be. This earth is our challenge, not Gods. The food is here and has always been here. Farmers produce enough food each year to feed 10 billion people. Look it up yourself, it is all over the web.

Plenty of folks, my wife started up a food bank because she was sick of seeing it locally, I got into agriculture, in large part, because I couldn't stand the sight of it when I'd traveled or the thought of it when I was back home.  All of this starvation, mind you, must be a part of your meat fairy's soul improvement plan.  
Everena: Social problems are ours to fix and we are perfectly capable of fixing them. Anything that is wrong here is our fault, not Gods

Quote:Everena: Now you are going to pretend food does not even exist on this planet? Wow, how did we ever make it through every single stage of evolution without food? You are being intentionally stupid and irritating and it is getting old. Make realistic truthful statements or don't converse with me.

You'll either try to persist in a doomed argument with me, or refine your currently atrocious claims like so many dirty souls on this slaughterhouse rock.

Quote:Everena: Oh, humans created food? Wow did we go back in time and create it for every stage of evolution so we would be here right now? Did humans create this entire universe and the other 200 billion galaxies too do you think? Wow, just wow.

Yes, Ev, we did create the foods we eat.  Everena: FALSE. We eat what is available to eat on this planet.

We even selected them specifically for their taste, which is why your strawberries are sweet instead of toxic.  It was an amazing lift and we're still at it.  You would not be alive today had we not done so, mistakenly sitting there in slack jawed wonder at all the food that you think meat fairy made.

Quote:Everena: Not true. Big gmo fruit tastes much more watery and has much less flavor than regular fruit. 

We began this work ten thousand years ago, not yesterday.  I'm not talking about gmos..though, technically all of the food you eat is a gmo.  
Everena: False. I can go pick willd growing food right now. Grip reality soon.

Quote:Everena: Never.....gonna......happen....and it's a fail for atheism and so is DNA

Then you will consistently present your own beliefs and yourself as being breathtakingly ignorant.  I can't make you care about that..I can only bring it to your attention.

(November 13, 2018 at 7:04 pm)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote: Is it just me... Or is this too hard to follow? Not reading.