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22nd School Shooting this year
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RE: 22nd School Shooting this year
(May 19, 2018 at 10:54 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(May 19, 2018 at 8:01 pm)henryp Wrote: Emergency exits aren't a new invention.  Not having a bunch of doors you can just walk into the school through doesn't literally mean one door to the school.

Quote:Fire fighters have cited overzealous guards who told people during a fire that they are not allowed to use emergency exits. The practice is actually quite common in the absence of fires, as well. Some skyscrapers have stairwells with standard emergency exit signs on each door, which then lock upon closing. Users of these stairwells are trapped, whether they know or do not know that the only door that opens from the inside is the one on the ground floor.

A further problem becoming very common in the USA (2005) is that retail stores at night close one of their main entrance/exits through makeshift heavy metal barriers, signage, paper notes, or junk placed in front of the exits. Some actually lock their exits. A large array of signage and mechanical exit systems have also been devised, including signage that says contradictorily, "This is not an exit," "Do not use this exit," or warning users that a heavy penalty will be assessed for non-emergency use.

Some systems do not allow the exit to be opened until the user signals the intention to exit (through a button or lever) for some amount of time, such as 20 seconds. It is also common for these exits to remain completely locked until somebody tests them.

Wikipedia || Emergency exit

Quote:The Stardust fire was a fatal fire which took place at the Stardust nightclub in Artane, Dublin, Ireland in the early hours of 14 February (Valentine's Day) 1981. Some 841 people had attended a disco there, of whom 48 died and 214 were injured as a result of the fire....The attendees at a trade union function taking place in the same building made their escape but the escape of some of the Stardust patrons was hampered by a number of obstructions. Some of the main fire exits were padlocked around the push bars and consequently were impossible to open.

Stardust fire

Don't put padlocks or pile a bunch of shit in front of the emergency exits.   WE DID IT!! WE SOLVED THE GREAT EMERGENCY EXIT RIDDLE OF 1981!!!!  

Addressing the other very relevant points is much trickier though.  Not putting schools in skyscrapers is a start.  Use a normal emergency exit, rather than a complicated rube goldberg emergency exit in schools probably allays some of your concerns.  Finally,  I'm thinking some sort of drill that practices what the kids/teachers should due in the event of a fire.  Where they all go out these forbidden exits of doom, so they will find it's not so scary after all.  Maybe we could call these 'fire drills.'
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22nd School Shooting this year - by Joods - May 18, 2018 at 11:08 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 18, 2018 at 11:19 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Antares - May 18, 2018 at 11:23 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Whateverist - May 18, 2018 at 11:32 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Joods - May 18, 2018 at 11:32 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 18, 2018 at 11:35 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Joods - May 18, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by brewer - May 18, 2018 at 12:01 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Joods - May 18, 2018 at 12:01 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by brewer - May 18, 2018 at 12:05 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Divinity - May 18, 2018 at 12:09 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 18, 2018 at 12:18 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by LadyForCamus - May 18, 2018 at 12:21 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 18, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Joods - May 18, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by brewer - May 18, 2018 at 1:35 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 18, 2018 at 1:41 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by brewer - May 18, 2018 at 1:46 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Fake Messiah - May 18, 2018 at 2:27 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Neo-Scholastic - May 18, 2018 at 2:49 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Fake Messiah - May 18, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by possibletarian - May 18, 2018 at 7:31 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Joods - May 18, 2018 at 4:17 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 18, 2018 at 2:44 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Fireball - May 18, 2018 at 3:35 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by RoadRunner79 - May 18, 2018 at 3:02 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by downbeatplumb - May 18, 2018 at 3:05 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by RoadRunner79 - May 18, 2018 at 3:50 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Aegon - May 18, 2018 at 4:17 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by RoadRunner79 - May 18, 2018 at 4:32 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 18, 2018 at 4:41 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Aegon - May 18, 2018 at 7:54 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by RoadRunner79 - May 18, 2018 at 8:04 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Aegon - May 18, 2018 at 8:09 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by downbeatplumb - May 19, 2018 at 4:46 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by RoadRunner79 - May 19, 2018 at 9:24 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 18, 2018 at 11:32 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Fireball - May 19, 2018 at 12:09 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 19, 2018 at 5:07 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 19, 2018 at 5:19 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by paulpablo - May 19, 2018 at 8:35 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by ignoramus - May 20, 2018 at 1:15 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by paulpablo - May 20, 2018 at 2:04 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 18, 2018 at 3:06 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Divinity - May 18, 2018 at 3:05 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by henryp - May 18, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 18, 2018 at 4:26 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by RoadRunner79 - May 18, 2018 at 4:42 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by The Valkyrie - May 18, 2018 at 4:37 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by brewer - May 18, 2018 at 5:22 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 18, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by RoadRunner79 - May 18, 2018 at 5:48 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Rev. Rye - May 18, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 18, 2018 at 7:01 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by ignoramus - May 18, 2018 at 7:11 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Catholic_Lady - May 18, 2018 at 7:36 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Amarok - May 18, 2018 at 11:16 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Divinity - May 18, 2018 at 8:10 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by brewer - May 18, 2018 at 8:36 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 18, 2018 at 8:48 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 19, 2018 at 2:00 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 19, 2018 at 5:39 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by ignoramus - May 19, 2018 at 4:19 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by zebo-the-fat - May 19, 2018 at 4:34 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by SteelCurtain - May 19, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 19, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by henryp - May 19, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Angrboda - May 19, 2018 at 6:49 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by henryp - May 19, 2018 at 8:01 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 19, 2018 at 8:10 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Angrboda - May 19, 2018 at 10:54 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by henryp - May 20, 2018 at 8:39 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 19, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by LastPoet - May 19, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 19, 2018 at 7:02 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by brewer - May 19, 2018 at 7:22 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Minimalist - May 19, 2018 at 7:40 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 19, 2018 at 8:02 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Rev. Rye - May 19, 2018 at 8:51 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by brewer - May 20, 2018 at 12:57 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by The Valkyrie - May 20, 2018 at 5:21 pm
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 21, 2018 at 6:14 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Joods - May 21, 2018 at 6:18 am
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year - by Amarok - May 20, 2018 at 4:22 pm

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