(June 27, 2018 at 10:21 am)Aegon Wrote:(June 27, 2018 at 10:03 am)Libertarian God Wrote: Hey at least I'm honest about it! I just don't believe in large government. I think much of it should be privatized such as education, ems and healthcare. At a bare minimum I believe government should serve only a few purposes. That is protect it's people, and it's people's rights. I just want my weed and guns.
BUT....that is how I feel. Don't hurt me
If you were really honest you'd say you want mostly privitized health care because you want poor people to die. Or never have a chance at making something of themselves due to overwhelming medical debt. But rightwing libertarians live in the same fantasy world as communists.
I know that was harsh, but I don't respect that POV , sorry. I think it's pretty fucked up. Health care is a right and you'll never have a productive work force or efficient market with privitized health care. It's morally and fiscally irresponsible.
I'd consider myself left libertarian by the way. I only believe a free market that doesn't fuck over the individual is one with a generous social safety net, which includes a public health care system that anybody can opt into if they can't afford private. Thinking a society can function with such minimal government intervention is as unrealistic as thinking a communist regime will actually work like the Marxist literature claims it would.
Well, to be fair, I get a fucking lip twitch when I see fellow atheists sport the Che avatar. Che is the asshole who lead to Castro's Cuba which like the USSR was based on Marxist views. Marx was right in that workers should have a voice, but was dead wrong on how to do that. Ayn Rand economics is the opposite and just as fucked up.
Mixed economies with social safety nets do not bar the private sector, but should provide health care and education.
There is also a myth that closed states do not have a private sector. And just a visit to any Walmart where most of your products are MADE IN CHINA, should debunk that myth. Saudi Arabia's royal family owns banks and oil and invests in the global weapons industry. Fidel Castro had a personal wealth of $800,000 dollars. Gadaffi was a billionaire who owned stock in GE. "Capitalism" is not a form of government. There is not one nation in the world, that does not invest in the global market.
Government has to grow as the population grows. It isn't to say it should over spend no. But America would not function if we still only had 13 Senators when we now have 50 states.