(July 8, 2018 at 11:56 pm)kbultra Wrote: I know this is very far fetched but hear me out. I was thinking about religion (I am newly atheist) and thought that maybe religion was originally made to keep early humans in order. Before police and jail and law at all. Think about it, if you couldn't keep people under control and there were no laws, what would you do to keep people from killing and stealing? I know what I would do. I would come up with a story in which people who do bad and immoral things get punished after they die, and people who do great and kind things live in a perfect place after they die. Sound familiar? I honestly believe that religion could have originated from an early human form of "law"
I would love to hear your thoughts.
Kindest regards,
Kb
Glob...
Ok let's say this was the reason..
Now let's look at the jews.
From adam to aberham thought to his son joseph and all the time in captivity there was no law.
Religion without rules for the 1st 1/3 of our knowing God. if religion was about control then why no seat belt rules for the first 1/3 of our time?
Then the jews under egypt obeyed the rules of egypt... then they went out from egypt and asked for said rules. when they got them they were counter what the people expected or wanted. So if there is no God who wants wills or obeys rules they don't want? rules counter what anyone to that point has ever known??
Then FF a few thousand years and here comes Jesus Again changing everything. Jesus introduces rules that completely upset and change religion forever. even jews today do not worship as they did then... Then again why did Jesus change the rules so as to get the romans all pissed off at the christians and slaughter them?
If the state was responsible for make rules and assigning them to god to control people why then would the state have it state sponcered god make rules against hat the roman government wants? In other words if rme was incharge of religion why did christian religion have so many rules that pissed off ceaser? why not mae jesus mae christians follow roman law?
Why then as well were so many willing to obey god over rome if rome was crucifying people who did not obey rome, yet people died this horrible death anyway?
Now comes the dark ages the only point where you arguement might work...
But then come Martian luther (not ML King) but the original Martian luther who was a roman catholic monk who translated the bible and discovered over 100 instances of out right blaspheme the catholic church was involved in, in it's day to day where decrees from the pope directly contradict the teaching of Jesus Himself in the bible. and then he pens all of that down and nails his 95 thesis to the church door!
Again which breaks the church's back and fractures it into 1000 or actual 34K pieces supposedly.
Again if the church or religion is about being controlled then why is the history of the church namly god's direct dealing with the church always end up in destroying the power religion has over it's people.
Not to mention all the time Jesus says He hates religion, and foolish and blind religious teachers. He had so much contempt for stupid religious people they got together and killed him.