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Tipping in the service industry
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RE: Tipping in the service industry
From this thread it's pretty clear that the situation regarding tipping is very different between the UK and the US and that rightly or wrongly it's a very real, and necessary, part of a living wage in the US whereas in the UK it is not. Basically in the UK, minimum wage is a fair wage - personally I've only ever had minimum wage jobs and been perfectly happy with the amount - probably in part because of the NHS. The NHS, as well as other welfare benefits - like the state pension - is still paid for by 'National Insurance' but it's clearly not the same thing, nor anywhere near as expensive as health insurance in the US, though I don't know exactly how it's handled in the US, having never experienced it. In the UK, the current rate of National Insurance is 12% of earnings between £162 and £892 a week and 2% of earnings beyond £892 a week. And that... your 'NI contributions' ... is calculated/taken at source on income alongside your tax calculations.

So what I'm saying is if I was in America, with that different system, I'd probably see tipping in a very different light and see it as much more necessary. But here in the UK I see it, in that arbitrary form, as rather superfluous, and thus as I said I just see it as a strange and arbitrary custom rather than the merit-based essence of tipping I think it should be. From that perspective I agree with RR... that it's never made sense to me any rational reason why it should be a percentage of the bill; just as I disagree for similar reasons with Amazon or eBay taking a percentage of the sale price from sellers, as if such a commission has any bearing whatsoever on the administrative costs/work done on their end to process a sale. I guess I just disagree with commission in principle when it is arbitrary and doesn't relate to work done. But as I said I understand from this thread that it's a whole different situation in the US, due to an insufficient minimum wage (in and of itself and/or as a result of additional healthcare costs etc), so in that situation I would see that sort of arbitrary percentage tipping in a much more necessary light as a very real part of a living wage.
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Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 2:09 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Tiberius - September 26, 2018 at 2:21 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Minimalist - September 26, 2018 at 11:08 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by CapnAwesome - September 26, 2018 at 12:22 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 2:25 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Cod - September 26, 2018 at 5:41 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 26, 2018 at 5:53 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Aroura - September 26, 2018 at 6:00 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Cod - September 26, 2018 at 6:04 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 8:04 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Cod - September 26, 2018 at 8:08 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Homeless Nutter - September 26, 2018 at 6:29 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Chad32 - September 26, 2018 at 6:39 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Mr.Obvious - September 26, 2018 at 7:44 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Aoi Magi - September 26, 2018 at 7:55 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 8:13 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by brewer - September 26, 2018 at 8:09 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Cod - September 26, 2018 at 8:18 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by brewer - September 26, 2018 at 8:23 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Cod - September 26, 2018 at 8:27 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by brewer - September 26, 2018 at 8:29 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Cod - September 26, 2018 at 8:34 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 8:43 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Cod - September 26, 2018 at 8:48 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by julep - September 26, 2018 at 8:51 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Figbash - September 26, 2018 at 8:52 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Aroura - September 26, 2018 at 8:59 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 9:08 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Aroura - September 26, 2018 at 10:31 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Aoi Magi - September 26, 2018 at 10:43 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Ivan Denisovich - September 26, 2018 at 9:00 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Bob Kelso - September 26, 2018 at 9:14 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 9:19 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Bob Kelso - September 26, 2018 at 9:22 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 9:24 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Angrboda - September 26, 2018 at 9:38 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 10:25 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Angrboda - September 26, 2018 at 10:41 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by brewer - September 26, 2018 at 9:55 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by outtathereligioncloset - September 26, 2018 at 10:46 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Tiberius - September 26, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 11:04 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Tiberius - September 26, 2018 at 11:16 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 11:20 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Minimalist - September 26, 2018 at 11:20 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Ravenshire - September 26, 2018 at 1:56 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Tiberius - September 26, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Minimalist - September 26, 2018 at 11:31 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Losty - September 26, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Ravenshire - September 26, 2018 at 12:21 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Angrboda - September 26, 2018 at 1:05 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Minimalist - September 26, 2018 at 2:27 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by emjay - September 26, 2018 at 2:49 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by CapnAwesome - September 26, 2018 at 3:05 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by The Valkyrie - September 26, 2018 at 2:57 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 3:42 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by CapnAwesome - September 26, 2018 at 3:57 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by emjay - September 26, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 4:14 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by emjay - September 26, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 4:44 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by emjay - September 26, 2018 at 8:41 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 10:59 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by emjay - September 26, 2018 at 11:42 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Cecelia - September 26, 2018 at 11:21 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Nakara - September 26, 2018 at 11:30 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 26, 2018 at 11:50 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by LadyForCamus - September 26, 2018 at 11:52 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Aliza - September 27, 2018 at 1:36 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Seraphina - September 27, 2018 at 12:22 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 12:26 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Autumnlicious - September 27, 2018 at 12:29 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by vulcanlogician - September 27, 2018 at 7:32 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Tiberius - September 27, 2018 at 12:35 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by CapnAwesome - September 27, 2018 at 11:50 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 6:40 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by The Grand Nudger - September 27, 2018 at 7:14 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Tiberius - September 27, 2018 at 12:04 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by CapnAwesome - September 28, 2018 at 8:16 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 27, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Foxaèr - September 27, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 27, 2018 at 12:15 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Foxaèr - September 27, 2018 at 12:18 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 28, 2018 at 6:55 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by RoadRunner79 - September 28, 2018 at 10:17 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by vulcanlogician - September 29, 2018 at 3:31 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by RoadRunner79 - September 29, 2018 at 8:29 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by vulcanlogician - September 29, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 29, 2018 at 4:40 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by vulcanlogician - September 29, 2018 at 4:50 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by RoadRunner79 - September 29, 2018 at 11:49 pm
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by ReptilianPeon - September 29, 2018 at 1:53 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by emjay - September 29, 2018 at 7:50 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by paulpablo - September 29, 2018 at 8:42 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by emjay - September 29, 2018 at 9:38 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 29, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by RoadRunner79 - September 29, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Joods - September 29, 2018 at 10:55 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Angrboda - September 29, 2018 at 10:29 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Angrboda - September 29, 2018 at 11:58 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by Autumnlicious - September 30, 2018 at 3:54 am
RE: Tipping in the service industry - by The Valkyrie - September 30, 2018 at 4:02 am

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