RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 10:25 pm
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2018 at 10:26 pm by Mystic.)
(November 17, 2018 at 10:20 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(November 17, 2018 at 10:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Ok. To be honest, this caught me by surprise. This is the first time I'm seeing a human say idea and perception don't necessarily have to go together. From what I understand, ideas and perception go together and can't be separated, in that ideas can't exist without perception neither can perception exist without (an) idea(s).
That’s not what I said, and you know it. Please see my edited last post where I address this.
Oh, ok, phrase how you understand my argument in your own words. I wasn't dismissing brain and relationship to perception. What I was saying, it's either us/our brains that generates the concept of self (who we are, all psychological traits, etc) or something else. Then I also argued why I think it's impossible for anything but God to perceive an accurate reality of who we are.
Then I argue why we aren't an illusion as well by saying we would not even be able to estimate who we are, as opposed to what we do now, which is estimate who we are even while veiled to the accurate reality of who we are, and no human can do without loving others and hence estimating themselves and others. This proves (2) or at least that we all believe in 2.
You said why can't it be that nothing judges us who we are including us/our brains. This is impossible because psychological traits go with perceptions, they are ideas, and we are formed of these psychological traits. Your body as good looking as it is, doesn't define you. A perception does define you if there is a real you there. Is it possible to be other then God? I argue it can't be because only he can define us perfectly as far psychological assessment goes to who we are.