First order logic, set theory and God

[Angrboda]

I admire your tenacity of making yourself relevant again after being chucked out. However, I despise more than anything, that hypocrisy you seem to display so shamelessly.

I'll let the audience decide on that one. Hypocrite.

    Jörmungandr

I said that all you do is insult and lie, pointing out that you haven't addressed my substantial objection. Even if I was saying that it is wrong to insult and lie, you would still be wrong in calling me a hypocrite because I didn't lie. Nor was that all that I have done in this thread. But since I wasn't saying it was wrong to insult, alone, or at all, but rather to do nothing more than insult and lie, the hypocrisy doesn't exist. So, no, I'm not guilty of hypocrisy. And the proof of that is in the very post you quoted in which I pointed out that I had not committed the fallacy I was accused of. My doing so was neither an insult nor a lie. You're simply wrong once again.

Of course you can prove me wrong by addressing my first post and the fallacy in your argument.

Instead you'd rather falsely accuse me of fallacies I haven't committed, say that I must be a child, and accuse me of hypocrisy that I'm not guilty of.

You really do appear to be stupid.

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But that argument fails because then God also needs a cause and if God "doesn't need a cause" -as theists insist- then there is no reason to think universe didn't need a cause, so there you go DEBUNKED.

If someone were to claim that "everything needs a cause," then your objection here would make sense. It's likely that some people who don't understand the real First Cause argument would foolishly claim such a thing.

Actually, that's exactly what the OP's argument claims, so your objection is moot (see below).

The axioms are that:

P1. The principle of sufficient reason: All phenomena are either self-caused (i.e. A->A) or other-caused (B->A; B is not equal to A) but not both. Put another way, this principle says that the question "why?" is always meaningful. Everything happens for a reason.