(January 11, 2019 at 6:55 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(January 11, 2019 at 4:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I honestly do not care if there was something or nothing prior to the big bang. It could be this universe we are in is the result of the death of a prior universe, much like when a tree dies and rots it becomes fuel for new life. What is not required either way, something or nothing prior is a super cognition, but I am sure a smart guy like you has run across the problem of infinite regress.
If the universe was created by a super cognition, then that super cognition had an even bigger super cognition that created it, and that super cognition also had an even bigger super cognition create it. But if you want to claim God was not caused, seems to me less complex to say the universe doesn't need a super cognition to cause it.
Right, beer didn't "bang" out of nothing, so? Hurricanes also don't "bang" into existence as a result of Poseidon. But, what did happen with beer becoming an outcome, wasn't because of Spuds McKensy, but because of conditions that lead to evolution starting 4 billion years ago, then with 5 mass extinctions that allowed mammals to arise, that lead to primates, that lead to humans, whom eventually earned how to make beer.
I am sorry it bothers you when someone tells you we are not factory products, but we are not a product made by a super being, but an outcome of natural processes. No magic guy in the sky needed to explain anything.
Of course, you can explain it all. What was anybody else thinking? No point, just ask you.
Hello, McFly, I never claimed I could explain it all.
I am saying the claims o antiquity were made back then, for the people back then, and do not translate any remote close knowledge we have today. In laymen's terms, "That was then this is now".
What we do know now, is that the brain, not the heart do the thinking, but back then people had no clue that the brain was the regulatory organ of the body. Back then males thought females were merely deposits, like fields you plant corn in, that is why the word "seed" is used in antiquity to refer to male sperm. Humans had no clue back then that females contributed half the DNA.
No, I don't know everything. But I do know that life existed long before claims of Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Jesus, Thor, Apollo, Osiris, Yahweh, and long before the first known writings, and long before even humans existed. I also know that this planet will be here long after we go extinct.
Maybe you need to consider "all this" is not a product of a super cognition, but merely a natural temporary blip of an outcome. Maybe you need to consider that humans are merely projecting their own qualities on the world around them in fictional form.
